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<blockquote data-quote="POKE1911" data-source="post: 3272021" data-attributes="member: 24536"><p>You have a guy that’s completely unstable that is legally able to own firearms. He owns an AK-47, 2 automatic handguns, plenty of standard capacity mags and ammo. He owns a plate armor vest and has a few smoke grenades.</p><p></p><p>He has made a couple off handed anti-government jokes, maybe shown a little disdain for an ethnic group or social class. Maybe he has went as far as making a joke or a threat about a school, a courthouse, a church, a club, or a theater.</p><p></p><p>Someone goes to a judge and lays all this out and orders a confiscation.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, Coo-Coo bird is minding his own business sitting on a rocking chair on the front porch yelling at the neighbor’s cat. The deputies show up, detain him, show a warrant for the confiscation, take the guns, give him a letter of instruction on the confiscation and the process of getting his guns back, then leave.</p><p></p><p>What I ask... is this guy any less of a threat than he was the day before? Did we thwart a sadistic plan or did we just set off a ticking time-bomb? What is he capable of now? Murrah? Stillwater? Boston?</p><p></p><p>The thing about red flag laws is that they don’t focus on the threat, they focus on one of many things he can do to terrorize our country. Not only that but now we have given them more reasons to act.</p><p></p><p>If you’re so much of a threat that you are to be stripped of your constitutional right without having committed a crime, then taking firearms simply isn’t enough, in fact it’s counterproductive. If you show that level on instability, you should loose your drivers license, be under constant surveillance, Hell institutionalized.</p><p></p><p>Are we helping or hurting society with Red Flag Laws.... I honestly don’t know. But if we treat the gun as threat and not the wacko, it’s a dangerous way to find out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="POKE1911, post: 3272021, member: 24536"] You have a guy that’s completely unstable that is legally able to own firearms. He owns an AK-47, 2 automatic handguns, plenty of standard capacity mags and ammo. He owns a plate armor vest and has a few smoke grenades. He has made a couple off handed anti-government jokes, maybe shown a little disdain for an ethnic group or social class. Maybe he has went as far as making a joke or a threat about a school, a courthouse, a church, a club, or a theater. Someone goes to a judge and lays all this out and orders a confiscation. Meanwhile, Coo-Coo bird is minding his own business sitting on a rocking chair on the front porch yelling at the neighbor’s cat. The deputies show up, detain him, show a warrant for the confiscation, take the guns, give him a letter of instruction on the confiscation and the process of getting his guns back, then leave. What I ask... is this guy any less of a threat than he was the day before? Did we thwart a sadistic plan or did we just set off a ticking time-bomb? What is he capable of now? Murrah? Stillwater? Boston? The thing about red flag laws is that they don’t focus on the threat, they focus on one of many things he can do to terrorize our country. Not only that but now we have given them more reasons to act. If you’re so much of a threat that you are to be stripped of your constitutional right without having committed a crime, then taking firearms simply isn’t enough, in fact it’s counterproductive. If you show that level on instability, you should loose your drivers license, be under constant surveillance, Hell institutionalized. Are we helping or hurting society with Red Flag Laws.... I honestly don’t know. But if we treat the gun as threat and not the wacko, it’s a dangerous way to find out. [/QUOTE]
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