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"Red Flag" Gun Removal in NY, signed into law
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<blockquote data-quote="PantyRaid" data-source="post: 3209830" data-attributes="member: 44382"><p>2 points I'd like to make:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I would put second amendment rights at the top of the list of importance. It's what keeps a citizen from being a subject.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Yes obviously if a citizen is convicted by a jury of his peers in concordance with his other rights, he can be incarcerated/killed (which is losing a lot of rights)</li> </ol><p>I think the spirit of your question, is how to do we limit the rights of the dangerous? And my answer is you don't. And while this may seem wildly dangerous to society, it's not nearly as dangerous as taking away people's rights based on hearsay. <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm" target="_blank">Heart disease</a> and <a href="https://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/general-statistics/fatalityfacts/state-by-state-overview#Fatal-crash-totals" target="_blank">traffic accidents</a> still kill far more people annually. Once you start trying to legislate to this level, all you really do is create a side-industry for lawyers to argue with lawyers, clog up our justice system, and waste my tax money.</p><p></p><p>I need to ask a lawyer about paying some off-shore software firm for a way to submit red flag complaints on NY democrats on an hourly basis, every day. Until they have to review 50,000 cases a day or more. I wonder if it's false accusation if an Indian does it. Either way they are flooded with cases to review.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PantyRaid, post: 3209830, member: 44382"] 2 points I'd like to make: [LIST=1] [*]I would put second amendment rights at the top of the list of importance. It's what keeps a citizen from being a subject. [*]Yes obviously if a citizen is convicted by a jury of his peers in concordance with his other rights, he can be incarcerated/killed (which is losing a lot of rights) [/LIST] I think the spirit of your question, is how to do we limit the rights of the dangerous? And my answer is you don't. And while this may seem wildly dangerous to society, it's not nearly as dangerous as taking away people's rights based on hearsay. [URL='https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm']Heart disease[/URL] and [URL='https://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/general-statistics/fatalityfacts/state-by-state-overview#Fatal-crash-totals']traffic accidents[/URL] still kill far more people annually. Once you start trying to legislate to this level, all you really do is create a side-industry for lawyers to argue with lawyers, clog up our justice system, and waste my tax money. I need to ask a lawyer about paying some off-shore software firm for a way to submit red flag complaints on NY democrats on an hourly basis, every day. Until they have to review 50,000 cases a day or more. I wonder if it's false accusation if an Indian does it. Either way they are flooded with cases to review. [/QUOTE]
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