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Remington 870 or Mossberg 590?
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<blockquote data-quote="SPDguns" data-source="post: 2981182" data-attributes="member: 17621"><p>From the top of my head, the 870P has: Parkerized finish, non-MIM extractor, heavier springs in the trigger group, aluminum trigger guard without safety lock and non-dimpled magazine tube. The design is the same. A lot of people who don't know the difference think the matte blue found on the express is parkerized. Everything can be easily modified or changed except for the finish. And you're right, it's hard to beat a Police 870.</p><p></p><p>The biggest myths on HD shotguns is the load and pattern size. Overpenetration VS small shot, what choke to use, etc. Everyone should take their shotgun to the range and pace off their particular HD distance, then shoot the target with #8 birdshot. Birdshot is absolutely devastating at typical HD distances. People would be surprised at the small size of the shot column at 21 feet. (Yes, that's 7 yards for those of you with big houses and loooong halls.). At the other extreme, with controlled expansion 00Buck, all 9 pellets (2-3/4" shells) will/can stay inside of an 8" paper plate at distances from 15 up to 20 and sometimes 25 yards. Everything else can/will be somewhere in between.</p><p></p><p>The only absolute I've found is that you have to take the time and spend the money and practice and train for your particular application to figure out what works for you and what doesn't. There is no magical unicorn of one gun and one load for everyone and everything.</p><p></p><p>I'll save the debate as to why everyone wants a 3" magnum VS an old skool 2-3/4" Wingmaster for later. The perfect host is the "beater" $150 pawn shop 2-3/4" Wingmaster that's ugly as sin but smooth as butter.</p><p></p><p>YMMV, My .02c worth........</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SPDguns, post: 2981182, member: 17621"] From the top of my head, the 870P has: Parkerized finish, non-MIM extractor, heavier springs in the trigger group, aluminum trigger guard without safety lock and non-dimpled magazine tube. The design is the same. A lot of people who don't know the difference think the matte blue found on the express is parkerized. Everything can be easily modified or changed except for the finish. And you're right, it's hard to beat a Police 870. The biggest myths on HD shotguns is the load and pattern size. Overpenetration VS small shot, what choke to use, etc. Everyone should take their shotgun to the range and pace off their particular HD distance, then shoot the target with #8 birdshot. Birdshot is absolutely devastating at typical HD distances. People would be surprised at the small size of the shot column at 21 feet. (Yes, that's 7 yards for those of you with big houses and loooong halls.). At the other extreme, with controlled expansion 00Buck, all 9 pellets (2-3/4" shells) will/can stay inside of an 8" paper plate at distances from 15 up to 20 and sometimes 25 yards. Everything else can/will be somewhere in between. The only absolute I've found is that you have to take the time and spend the money and practice and train for your particular application to figure out what works for you and what doesn't. There is no magical unicorn of one gun and one load for everyone and everything. I'll save the debate as to why everyone wants a 3" magnum VS an old skool 2-3/4" Wingmaster for later. The perfect host is the "beater" $150 pawn shop 2-3/4" Wingmaster that's ugly as sin but smooth as butter. YMMV, My .02c worth........ [/QUOTE]
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