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Remington 870 Wingmaster 410 Inflated Price…Why?
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<blockquote data-quote="joegrizzy" data-source="post: 3705778" data-attributes="member: 45524"><p>and this is my biggest hang up. if you notice the price of something going up, and it isn't being made anymore, or maybe like one niche manufacturer is pumping out 1000 units every year for outrageous msrp, they never go back down. if you think it's a bad deal, it's only going to get worse, so if you want it you should buy it immediately. otherwise you are banking on yourself being in a better financial situation later, and let's be real; that doesn't happen all that often and by the time it does the deal is gone.</p><p></p><p>the only firearm to decrease in value over my lifetime is the basic ar-15, and that's mainly due to government intervention and psa cornering the market and destroying the entry level price ar's. anything that has fallen into the hole of "classic, no longer made, still functioning, rare" has only gone up, heck the last point of rare isn't even really all that necessary. some of the most common guns are the ones that have increased the most like mosins and whatnot.</p><p></p><p>i mean you bet i was assuming any milsurp i purchased cheap in '09 i assumed would increase in value, especially once they essentially "sold out" and the only way to get one would be the resale market, which ya know.....isn't really legal or a thing in some states. kids are growing up and they want to buy guns just like you and i did. it sucks to pay what they are paying, but they understand if they want to buy they kinda have to pay these prices.</p><p></p><p>if you are looking for something in the vein of collection, you have to understand that prices are only increasing and turning down a relatively bad deal right now will look foolish in the future. when you combine all this with a faltering economy, diminishing currency, inflation, etc. etc. i mean....</p><p></p><p>why would a gun ever get cheaper? yes some people here sell things for under market value, but you're only going to get those deals if you just happen to see the ad listed within the first 10-20 minutes. which shows how high demand is. and you have to realize we live in a state where guns can be:</p><p></p><p>traded friend to friend like this with no tax, etc</p><p>has all kinds of incredibly rare and desirable firearms</p><p></p><p>if you happened to live in a state where guns where not as common, were more taboo, weren't family traditions, how in the world would you ever find an amount of classic, rare, preban, etc firearms? how would you find firearms like the prison used mini-14's and stuff you find on here? you'd be stuck with the same online dealers everyone else uses, but you wouldn't have access to this incredible market that frankly we are all pretty dang lucky to have.</p><p></p><p>have you *seen* some of the firearms that have sold lately here? holy crap, that valmet was a straight once in a lifetime firearm, that firearm in a coastal state to some rich trust fund commie buying baby's first ak because he saw the "forgotten weapons" video of it would sell for $7-8k. i don't remember what it sold for, but i think it was around $3,500 or less. that's......absurd. there are guns like that on this site all the time, and you need to realize the one you are describing is falling into this hole. it will not come out, the price will only continue to fall off that cliff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joegrizzy, post: 3705778, member: 45524"] and this is my biggest hang up. if you notice the price of something going up, and it isn't being made anymore, or maybe like one niche manufacturer is pumping out 1000 units every year for outrageous msrp, they never go back down. if you think it's a bad deal, it's only going to get worse, so if you want it you should buy it immediately. otherwise you are banking on yourself being in a better financial situation later, and let's be real; that doesn't happen all that often and by the time it does the deal is gone. the only firearm to decrease in value over my lifetime is the basic ar-15, and that's mainly due to government intervention and psa cornering the market and destroying the entry level price ar's. anything that has fallen into the hole of "classic, no longer made, still functioning, rare" has only gone up, heck the last point of rare isn't even really all that necessary. some of the most common guns are the ones that have increased the most like mosins and whatnot. i mean you bet i was assuming any milsurp i purchased cheap in '09 i assumed would increase in value, especially once they essentially "sold out" and the only way to get one would be the resale market, which ya know.....isn't really legal or a thing in some states. kids are growing up and they want to buy guns just like you and i did. it sucks to pay what they are paying, but they understand if they want to buy they kinda have to pay these prices. if you are looking for something in the vein of collection, you have to understand that prices are only increasing and turning down a relatively bad deal right now will look foolish in the future. when you combine all this with a faltering economy, diminishing currency, inflation, etc. etc. i mean.... why would a gun ever get cheaper? yes some people here sell things for under market value, but you're only going to get those deals if you just happen to see the ad listed within the first 10-20 minutes. which shows how high demand is. and you have to realize we live in a state where guns can be: traded friend to friend like this with no tax, etc has all kinds of incredibly rare and desirable firearms if you happened to live in a state where guns where not as common, were more taboo, weren't family traditions, how in the world would you ever find an amount of classic, rare, preban, etc firearms? how would you find firearms like the prison used mini-14's and stuff you find on here? you'd be stuck with the same online dealers everyone else uses, but you wouldn't have access to this incredible market that frankly we are all pretty dang lucky to have. have you *seen* some of the firearms that have sold lately here? holy crap, that valmet was a straight once in a lifetime firearm, that firearm in a coastal state to some rich trust fund commie buying baby's first ak because he saw the "forgotten weapons" video of it would sell for $7-8k. i don't remember what it sold for, but i think it was around $3,500 or less. that's......absurd. there are guns like that on this site all the time, and you need to realize the one you are describing is falling into this hole. it will not come out, the price will only continue to fall off that cliff. [/QUOTE]
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