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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 999844" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>How much are you going to get to spend on it to upgrade things later on down the line? If you ever plan on upgrading things a year or so later, then I would get a Remington - the upgrades for it are usually cheaper than those for the Savage (and you usually have more choices). </p><p></p><p>Out of the box, the Savages I've seen are all a step above the Remington 700s (pretty much every model of Remington save possibly the 5R Milspec).</p><p></p><p>I agree with the .308 option as far as caliber is concerned if you want to stay cheap and with plenty of options.</p><p></p><p>The problem with either rifle is that they leave you with little room for a good base/rings/scope.</p><p></p><p>Your budget doesn't leave room for much else, so I would look online as to how to make your own sand-bags and just shoot off of those.</p><p></p><p>I'd get a Warne 1-piece base at a minimum (on that budget it might be the only decent one you can afford). I'd say get a 20 MOA base, but unless you plan on going out to 700yds or so (depending on your scope), you probably won't need it (but then again, its like a $20 upgrade).</p><p></p><p>Burris XTR Rings are good for the money, but they might be too much for your budget - on $750, you need a good scope more than you need ultra-precision rings - most of your cheaper Chinese Wal-Mart Leupold rings are good enough for what you'll be doing (on a budget). </p><p></p><p>If you plan on using your scope reticle to range-find, then you need something with a mil-dot or mil-based reticle (unless you want to go the MOA route, but I don't know of many scopes that have MOA-based reticle for your budget).</p><p></p><p>I'd look at a fixed-power Bushnell Elite 3200 or a Super Sniper fixed in 10x.</p><p></p><p>If range-finding with the scope is out of the budget, then get a good Nikon or Bushnell with a plex reticle and you should be good for $150-$200.</p><p></p><p>Problem is that if you only spend $200 on a scope, you've then got to spend say, $30 on rings, and at least $80-$100 on a Warne base.</p><p></p><p>That leaves you with $400 or so to pick up a good rifle. I'd be looking for good used rifles with decent barrels on them already - and hope for something super-nice for about $400.</p><p></p><p>Its honestly really hard to imagine finding a $400 rifle that is a true sub-MOA shooter, but it happens every now and then. You might look into Howa rifles - they offer a lot for the price and are probably more accurate than most of your off-the-shelf modern-day Remington 700s.</p><p></p><p>Try some of that Prvi Match ammo and see if it likes whatever rifle you've got (cause that stuff is less than $1 per round - its basically the cheapest off-the-shelf option you've got).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 999844, member: 229"] How much are you going to get to spend on it to upgrade things later on down the line? If you ever plan on upgrading things a year or so later, then I would get a Remington - the upgrades for it are usually cheaper than those for the Savage (and you usually have more choices). Out of the box, the Savages I've seen are all a step above the Remington 700s (pretty much every model of Remington save possibly the 5R Milspec). I agree with the .308 option as far as caliber is concerned if you want to stay cheap and with plenty of options. The problem with either rifle is that they leave you with little room for a good base/rings/scope. Your budget doesn't leave room for much else, so I would look online as to how to make your own sand-bags and just shoot off of those. I'd get a Warne 1-piece base at a minimum (on that budget it might be the only decent one you can afford). I'd say get a 20 MOA base, but unless you plan on going out to 700yds or so (depending on your scope), you probably won't need it (but then again, its like a $20 upgrade). Burris XTR Rings are good for the money, but they might be too much for your budget - on $750, you need a good scope more than you need ultra-precision rings - most of your cheaper Chinese Wal-Mart Leupold rings are good enough for what you'll be doing (on a budget). If you plan on using your scope reticle to range-find, then you need something with a mil-dot or mil-based reticle (unless you want to go the MOA route, but I don't know of many scopes that have MOA-based reticle for your budget). I'd look at a fixed-power Bushnell Elite 3200 or a Super Sniper fixed in 10x. If range-finding with the scope is out of the budget, then get a good Nikon or Bushnell with a plex reticle and you should be good for $150-$200. Problem is that if you only spend $200 on a scope, you've then got to spend say, $30 on rings, and at least $80-$100 on a Warne base. That leaves you with $400 or so to pick up a good rifle. I'd be looking for good used rifles with decent barrels on them already - and hope for something super-nice for about $400. Its honestly really hard to imagine finding a $400 rifle that is a true sub-MOA shooter, but it happens every now and then. You might look into Howa rifles - they offer a lot for the price and are probably more accurate than most of your off-the-shelf modern-day Remington 700s. Try some of that Prvi Match ammo and see if it likes whatever rifle you've got (cause that stuff is less than $1 per round - its basically the cheapest off-the-shelf option you've got). [/QUOTE]
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