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<blockquote data-quote="Ksmirk" data-source="post: 994579" data-attributes="member: 880"><p>First off WHAT is long range to you? second WHAT are you going to be shooting? paper, steel plates, deer, elk, p-dogs? and truth all of your choices I believe are to much rifle! any rifle is going to be a rainbow at long range some less than others and don't fool yourself the 338's will be flatter than the .30 cal's you have to factor in BC of the bullets, they may start out slow but they don't slow down as fast. </p><p></p><p>If yor new to long range then I would suggest the little ol' 308 Win. or even a 223 with the heavy bullets so you can get out and figure out how to read the wind pretty much the hardest part of long range shooting! you can get you drop chart lined out and get the hang of it and you will be able to afford to get out and shoot. I was going to build a 338 Edge and shoot the 300gr SMK's but by the time I reloaded my rounds I would be right close to $3 everytime I pulled the trigger and the Lapua (338) brass is 3x's the cost.</p><p></p><p>I am going to offer some suggestions on caliber and before anyone says THAT WON'T WORK plug the numbers in and just see. First I don't know if you have a long action or short action but here's my suggestions and I would build them on a long action. 280 Remington, 7 WSM, 284 Winchester, reason you can get heavy enough bullets and have the BC high enough to get you a very long way out there! I can't find the article but the 7 WSM shooting 180gr Berger VLD's was holding some impressive groups at a mile (1760 yards) the straight 284 Win is back on the 1000 yard bench lines and is doing very well. I shoot one for deer and I can tell you that 162gr A-Max is nasty! </p><p></p><p>You don't need a MAGNUM to shoot long range the biggest thing is find something that has a high BC bullet, is not hard on barrels, and you can afford to shoot and if you are going to shoot long range it'll take a mess of rounds to figure out that wind! Do a mess of research but please don't think you have to have something that used 90gr. of powder and must lauch a 300gr bullet at 2900fps to get to 1K people do it all day with a 308. Just remember shooting long range is easy, hitting at long range is different. Later,</p><p></p><p>Kirk</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ksmirk, post: 994579, member: 880"] First off WHAT is long range to you? second WHAT are you going to be shooting? paper, steel plates, deer, elk, p-dogs? and truth all of your choices I believe are to much rifle! any rifle is going to be a rainbow at long range some less than others and don't fool yourself the 338's will be flatter than the .30 cal's you have to factor in BC of the bullets, they may start out slow but they don't slow down as fast. If yor new to long range then I would suggest the little ol' 308 Win. or even a 223 with the heavy bullets so you can get out and figure out how to read the wind pretty much the hardest part of long range shooting! you can get you drop chart lined out and get the hang of it and you will be able to afford to get out and shoot. I was going to build a 338 Edge and shoot the 300gr SMK's but by the time I reloaded my rounds I would be right close to $3 everytime I pulled the trigger and the Lapua (338) brass is 3x's the cost. I am going to offer some suggestions on caliber and before anyone says THAT WON'T WORK plug the numbers in and just see. First I don't know if you have a long action or short action but here's my suggestions and I would build them on a long action. 280 Remington, 7 WSM, 284 Winchester, reason you can get heavy enough bullets and have the BC high enough to get you a very long way out there! I can't find the article but the 7 WSM shooting 180gr Berger VLD's was holding some impressive groups at a mile (1760 yards) the straight 284 Win is back on the 1000 yard bench lines and is doing very well. I shoot one for deer and I can tell you that 162gr A-Max is nasty! You don't need a MAGNUM to shoot long range the biggest thing is find something that has a high BC bullet, is not hard on barrels, and you can afford to shoot and if you are going to shoot long range it'll take a mess of rounds to figure out that wind! Do a mess of research but please don't think you have to have something that used 90gr. of powder and must lauch a 300gr bullet at 2900fps to get to 1K people do it all day with a 308. Just remember shooting long range is easy, hitting at long range is different. Later, Kirk [/QUOTE]
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