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Short barreled rifle legal specs? (not "class III")
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<blockquote data-quote="CAR-AR-M16" data-source="post: 903802" data-attributes="member: 204"><p>I must respectfully disagree slightly with your two examples:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>In reference to <span style="color: red">"Example 1'' </span><span style="color: black">ATF considers an SBR to be an SBR based on it's characteristics. If one removes the short barrel and replaces it with a longer than 16" barrel, it is no longer an SBR. Many SBR owners routinely place long uppers on their SBR lowers so they can take them to shoots in non-SBR states. While the rifle will still be listed in the NFA Registry as an SBR, it is not legally an SBR if it has the longer barrel. If you wish to sell it as a regular title 1 gun you can send a letter to NFA Branch and notify them that the SBR has been permanently reconfigured with a +16" barrel and ask them to update the Registry to show this. No weapon ever gets removed from the Registry, they will simply update it to show that your weapon is no longer an SBR. Here is info from the ATF NFA Handbook to support my position: <a href="http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/nfa_handbook/chapter2.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/nfa_handbook/chapter2.pdf</a></span></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: darkslategray"><strong><u>Section 2.5 Removal of firearms from the scope of the NFA by modification/elimination of components.</u></strong></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: darkslategray">Firearms, except machineguns and silencers, that are subject to the NFA fall within the various definitions due to specific features. If the particular feature that causes a firearm to be regulated by the NFA is eliminated or modified, the resulting weapon is no longer an NFA weapon. For example, a shotgun with a barrel length of 15 inches is an NFA weapon. If the 15- inch barrel is removed and disposed of, the remaining firearm is not subject to the NFA because it has no barrel. Likewise, if the 15 inch barrel is modified by permanently attaching an extension such that the barrel </span><span style="color: darkslategray">length is at least 18 inches and the overall length of the weapon is at least 26 inches, the modified firearm is not subject to the NFA.</span></p><p></p><p> </p><p style="text-align: left">In reference to <span style="color: red"><span style="color: darkred">"Example 2''</span> <span style="color: black">I agree </span></span><span style="color: black">that attaching a shoulder stock to a pistol would classify the gun as an SBR, but the attachment of a vertical grip to a pistol would classify it as an AOW (Any Other Weapon). Here is a link to the ATF opinion letter on this: <a href="http://www.atf.gov/firearms/041006-vert_grip.htm" target="_blank">http://www.atf.gov/firearms/041006-vert_grip.htm</a></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CAR-AR-M16, post: 903802, member: 204"] I must respectfully disagree slightly with your two examples: In reference to [COLOR=red]"Example 1'' [/COLOR][COLOR=black]ATF considers an SBR to be an SBR based on it's characteristics. If one removes the short barrel and replaces it with a longer than 16" barrel, it is no longer an SBR. Many SBR owners routinely place long uppers on their SBR lowers so they can take them to shoots in non-SBR states. While the rifle will still be listed in the NFA Registry as an SBR, it is not legally an SBR if it has the longer barrel. If you wish to sell it as a regular title 1 gun you can send a letter to NFA Branch and notify them that the SBR has been permanently reconfigured with a +16" barrel and ask them to update the Registry to show this. No weapon ever gets removed from the Registry, they will simply update it to show that your weapon is no longer an SBR. Here is info from the ATF NFA Handbook to support my position: [URL]http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/nfa_handbook/chapter2.pdf[/URL][/COLOR] [LEFT][COLOR=darkslategray][B][U]Section 2.5 Removal of firearms from the scope of the NFA by modification/elimination of components.[/U][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkslategray]Firearms, except machineguns and silencers, that are subject to the NFA fall within the various definitions due to specific features. If the particular feature that causes a firearm to be regulated by the NFA is eliminated or modified, the resulting weapon is no longer an NFA weapon. For example, a shotgun with a barrel length of 15 inches is an NFA weapon. If the 15- inch barrel is removed and disposed of, the remaining firearm is not subject to the NFA because it has no barrel. Likewise, if the 15 inch barrel is modified by permanently attaching an extension such that the barrel [/COLOR][COLOR=darkslategray]length is at least 18 inches and the overall length of the weapon is at least 26 inches, the modified firearm is not subject to the NFA.[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT]In reference to [COLOR=red][COLOR=darkred]"Example 2''[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]I agree [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=black]that attaching a shoulder stock to a pistol would classify the gun as an SBR, but the attachment of a vertical grip to a pistol would classify it as an AOW (Any Other Weapon). Here is a link to the ATF opinion letter on this: [URL]http://www.atf.gov/firearms/041006-vert_grip.htm[/URL][/COLOR][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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