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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 2417224" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>Ali Express is notorious for fakes and knock-offs with way reduced quality/materials (several knock-off knives produced with markings of specific steels were proven to not be anywhere close to the steel listed).</p><p></p><p>They are also notorious for stolen intellectual property and actually marking products with manufacturer's markings (and also their crappy knock-offs end up in the secondary market on places like ebay, craigs list, arms list, and message boards like this one as advertised to be the real thing). </p><p></p><p>I realize that companies like Primary Arms and Vortex use Chinese manufacturers, but they're holding them to a specific level of QC, providing great customer service should you have an issue, and they're not stealing anybody's design. I would definitely not assume that these fakes are made in the same factory as the real ones (and even so, I wouldn't expect any level of QC, CS, or even basic functionality).</p><p></p><p>I appreciate value, but I'll never understand these two things about the folks who don't mind buying stolen-IPO-branded knock-offs for their ARs:</p><p></p><p>1. Why condone/reward these shadier Chinese businesses with ripping off a legitimate AR-accessory/optic when so many legit manufacturers are producing decent-quality optics/accessories for probably cheaper than ever before in the history of AR-15 goodies (Primary Arms is just a hair above the first link posted)?</p><p></p><p></p><p>2. Why spend all of the money on an AR-15 to only end up risking/wasting money on an optic that will likely not function correctly and have zero support from the vendor/manufacturer in the likely event that something goes wrong?</p><p></p><p>Saving money off of the cost up-front doesn't mean anything if you just wasted your money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 2417224, member: 229"] Ali Express is notorious for fakes and knock-offs with way reduced quality/materials (several knock-off knives produced with markings of specific steels were proven to not be anywhere close to the steel listed). They are also notorious for stolen intellectual property and actually marking products with manufacturer's markings (and also their crappy knock-offs end up in the secondary market on places like ebay, craigs list, arms list, and message boards like this one as advertised to be the real thing). I realize that companies like Primary Arms and Vortex use Chinese manufacturers, but they're holding them to a specific level of QC, providing great customer service should you have an issue, and they're not stealing anybody's design. I would definitely not assume that these fakes are made in the same factory as the real ones (and even so, I wouldn't expect any level of QC, CS, or even basic functionality). I appreciate value, but I'll never understand these two things about the folks who don't mind buying stolen-IPO-branded knock-offs for their ARs: 1. Why condone/reward these shadier Chinese businesses with ripping off a legitimate AR-accessory/optic when so many legit manufacturers are producing decent-quality optics/accessories for probably cheaper than ever before in the history of AR-15 goodies (Primary Arms is just a hair above the first link posted)? 2. Why spend all of the money on an AR-15 to only end up risking/wasting money on an optic that will likely not function correctly and have zero support from the vendor/manufacturer in the likely event that something goes wrong? Saving money off of the cost up-front doesn't mean anything if you just wasted your money. [/QUOTE]
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