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<blockquote data-quote="SMS" data-source="post: 2157825" data-attributes="member: 42"><p>If, IF, the Judge met the definition of a sawed off shotgun under 1289.18, it wouldn't matter what round you happened to have loaded in it since the definition requires the firearm to merely be <em>capable</em> of discharging multiple projectiles. It doesn't say it has to be loaded with rounds that fire multiple projectiles to meet the criteria.</p><p></p><p>I can see how 1289.18 could be applied to the Judge. But I would never carry a Judge for self defense unless it was the last gun available on the planet....LOL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Under the <em>federal</em> definition yes, but <em>Oklahoma</em> 1289.18 doesn't have the "smooth bore" requirement.</p><p></p><p>While 1289.18 definition seems to include the Judge and restrict it, the SDA 1290.2 definition of a pistol also includes it and allows it. So is one protected when using the Judge while carrying under the SDA but not protected when using it at home without a permit? To me it falls under the poorly written, antiquated legislation category...I doubt anyone would ever get hemmed up over it. But I can see the problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SMS, post: 2157825, member: 42"] If, IF, the Judge met the definition of a sawed off shotgun under 1289.18, it wouldn't matter what round you happened to have loaded in it since the definition requires the firearm to merely be [I]capable[/I] of discharging multiple projectiles. It doesn't say it has to be loaded with rounds that fire multiple projectiles to meet the criteria. I can see how 1289.18 could be applied to the Judge. But I would never carry a Judge for self defense unless it was the last gun available on the planet....LOL. Under the [I]federal[/I] definition yes, but [I]Oklahoma[/I] 1289.18 doesn't have the "smooth bore" requirement. While 1289.18 definition seems to include the Judge and restrict it, the SDA 1290.2 definition of a pistol also includes it and allows it. So is one protected when using the Judge while carrying under the SDA but not protected when using it at home without a permit? To me it falls under the poorly written, antiquated legislation category...I doubt anyone would ever get hemmed up over it. But I can see the problem. [/QUOTE]
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