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<blockquote data-quote="sethk" data-source="post: 2332525" data-attributes="member: 31522"><p>I'm not sure that we do disagree actually. I agree wholeheartedly with the above, and I meant for that to be part of main point. There is, in reality, no cause to champion for the pedophile here. He's dead, and his murderers are pinned for it, though they can't really pay much relative to what they are already facing. I also actually feel no great emotional reaction to this guy's death. What I do feel is unsatisfied with the conditions that lead to the event and the way that these discussion typically tend to go in forums, the media, etc. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what I said that makes me all "touch feely". I'm actually arguing against emotional reactions and saying that we should actually address the real and various problems in cases like this. When somebody commits a capitol offense, I DO give a damn who does it. I'm well aware of how I would likely feel if something horrible happened to someone I am close to (I've been there to a less extreme degree). I know that I would desperately want the culprit disemboweled. That's what I would feel. What I feel, though, has very little to do with what is objectively right in the moral and legal sense. </p><p></p><p>Dance all you want on the graves of murdered murderers and raped rapists. It doesn't change the fact we don't/shouldn't live in a society tolerates and applauds the violations of the rights and the extra-legal killing of those that some deem less human. When you start to judge people (human beings, US citizens, etc.) as devoid of humanity and the rights thereof, then you open the door to great abuses both of people and of a system of liberty and justice that is dependent upon (a flawed, yet critical) the rule of law and the unbiased application of rights, laws, and responsibilities. Even if you don't put any value on the lives of certain criminals, I would hope that you put value on a system that, at it's best, is capable of ensuring some degree of justice and protection for all people of all "values".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sethk, post: 2332525, member: 31522"] I'm not sure that we do disagree actually. I agree wholeheartedly with the above, and I meant for that to be part of main point. There is, in reality, no cause to champion for the pedophile here. He's dead, and his murderers are pinned for it, though they can't really pay much relative to what they are already facing. I also actually feel no great emotional reaction to this guy's death. What I do feel is unsatisfied with the conditions that lead to the event and the way that these discussion typically tend to go in forums, the media, etc. I'm not sure what I said that makes me all "touch feely". I'm actually arguing against emotional reactions and saying that we should actually address the real and various problems in cases like this. When somebody commits a capitol offense, I DO give a damn who does it. I'm well aware of how I would likely feel if something horrible happened to someone I am close to (I've been there to a less extreme degree). I know that I would desperately want the culprit disemboweled. That's what I would feel. What I feel, though, has very little to do with what is objectively right in the moral and legal sense. Dance all you want on the graves of murdered murderers and raped rapists. It doesn't change the fact we don't/shouldn't live in a society tolerates and applauds the violations of the rights and the extra-legal killing of those that some deem less human. When you start to judge people (human beings, US citizens, etc.) as devoid of humanity and the rights thereof, then you open the door to great abuses both of people and of a system of liberty and justice that is dependent upon (a flawed, yet critical) the rule of law and the unbiased application of rights, laws, and responsibilities. Even if you don't put any value on the lives of certain criminals, I would hope that you put value on a system that, at it's best, is capable of ensuring some degree of justice and protection for all people of all "values". [/QUOTE]
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