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<blockquote data-quote="henschman" data-source="post: 1993440" data-attributes="member: 4235"><p>If you read my post all the way through I wasn't really encouraging unlawful carry... like I said, I don't personally consider the risks to be worth the benefit, when you consider the impact it could have on the applicability of the SYG law. As for lying to a police officer, I would absolutely encourage that if it gives you less chance of having them search and seize your property, or charge you with a crime. </p><p></p><p>As flybeech pointed out, your suggested civil disobedience does not make a good comparison to unlawful carry. There is a huge difference between engaging in behavior that threatens the lives and property of others, which would be wrong whether it was illegal or not, and violating some malium prohibitum law that prohibits behavior that does not threaten anyone else's rights in any way. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't necessarily agree that civil disobedience needs to be either all the way or not at all. To me it's not so much a matter of standing on principle or making a point, as it is just living your life as freely as possible under the circumstances. I don't support breaking the law just for the sake of doing so... I only believe in doing it when it is something you would want to do anyway, and when the benefit is greater than the possible negative consequences times the likelihood of getting caught. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I said before, violating the prohibition on carrying an offensive weapon is not a felony... it is a misdemeanor, and carries a possible penalty of $100-250 fine, and 0-30 days in jail; and almost anybody who doesn't have a prior record will get off with probation and no jail time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="henschman, post: 1993440, member: 4235"] If you read my post all the way through I wasn't really encouraging unlawful carry... like I said, I don't personally consider the risks to be worth the benefit, when you consider the impact it could have on the applicability of the SYG law. As for lying to a police officer, I would absolutely encourage that if it gives you less chance of having them search and seize your property, or charge you with a crime. As flybeech pointed out, your suggested civil disobedience does not make a good comparison to unlawful carry. There is a huge difference between engaging in behavior that threatens the lives and property of others, which would be wrong whether it was illegal or not, and violating some malium prohibitum law that prohibits behavior that does not threaten anyone else's rights in any way. I don't necessarily agree that civil disobedience needs to be either all the way or not at all. To me it's not so much a matter of standing on principle or making a point, as it is just living your life as freely as possible under the circumstances. I don't support breaking the law just for the sake of doing so... I only believe in doing it when it is something you would want to do anyway, and when the benefit is greater than the possible negative consequences times the likelihood of getting caught. As I said before, violating the prohibition on carrying an offensive weapon is not a felony... it is a misdemeanor, and carries a possible penalty of $100-250 fine, and 0-30 days in jail; and almost anybody who doesn't have a prior record will get off with probation and no jail time. [/QUOTE]
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