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<blockquote data-quote="Cohiba" data-source="post: 2948257" data-attributes="member: 2550"><p>He's designed many a gun I've owned!!!</p><p></p><p></p><p>The ones I've owned:</p><p></p><p>1887</p><p><img src="https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/97/0c/51/970c518639d46112eccd56d574030e79.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>1893 top 1897 bottom</p><p><img src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JtIGfX7MGTE/maxresdefault.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>1901..........12 guage</p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/media.liveauctiongroup.net_i_27885_24744188_2.jpg_9858708a2f2064857dcc403928e90b86.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Colt 1911</p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.coltautos.com_images_1911_2425b.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>and when I was into Class III/ Transferable weapons...</p><p></p><p>Browning BAR</p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/truthaboutguns_zippykid.netdna_ssl.com_wp_content_uploads_2013_10_P1310604_900x601.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just the Browning guns that I've owned...he designed a lot more.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Little side note about Browning; He was a Mormon and had to serve a mission for two years and he was assigned to Georgia. He and his partner would walk and try to convert people like they do today(on bicycles).</p><p></p><p>He had just designed and it went into operation..the 1887 shotgun while he was in Georgia.</p><p></p><p>Away from wife, children, and gun inventing to serve a two-year mission in Georgia. Once during his mission, he and his companion stopped to visit a sporting goods store that had on display a brand new Winchester 87 repeating shotgun. The proprietor was surprised at how facilely the besuited out-of-towner handled the weapon and operated the action. When the proprietor observed that John obviously knew how to handle the gun, John’s companion replied, “He ought to. He invented it.”</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Trench Gun 1897 used in WW I, got the Germans attention...especially when they signed the peace treaty!!</p><p></p><p>Although the Model 1897 was popular with American troops in WW I, the Germans soon began to protest its use in combat. "On 19 September 1918, the German government issued a diplomatic protest against the American use of shotguns, alleging that the shotgun was prohibited by the law of war.</p><p></p><p>A part of the German protest read that "it is especially forbidden to employ arms, projections, or materials calculated to cause unnecessary suffering" as defined in 1907 convention. This is the only known occasion in which the legality of actual combat use of the shotgun has been raised.</p><p> However, the United States interpreted their use of the shotgun differently than Germany. The Judge Advocate General of the Army, Secretary of State carefully considered and reviewed the applicable law and promptly rejected the German protest. France and Britain considered using shotguns as trench weapons during WWI. The shotgun in question was a double barrel shotgun which was not used because they were unable to obtain high powered ammo and that type of gun is slow to reload in close combat.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>German Response</strong></span></p><p>The rejection of their protest greatly upset the German forces, because they believed they were treated unjustly in the war. Shortly after the protest was rejected, Germany issued threats that they would punish all captured American soldiers that were found to be armed with a shotgun.. (1897) This led to the United States issuing a retaliation threat, stating that any measures unjustly taken against captured American soldiers would lead to an equal act by the United States on captured German soldiers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cohiba, post: 2948257, member: 2550"] He's designed many a gun I've owned!!! The ones I've owned: 1887 [IMG]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/97/0c/51/970c518639d46112eccd56d574030e79.jpg[/IMG] 1893 top 1897 bottom [IMG]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JtIGfX7MGTE/maxresdefault.jpg[/IMG] 1901..........12 guage [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/media.liveauctiongroup.net_i_27885_24744188_2.jpg_9858708a2f2064857dcc403928e90b86.jpg[/IMG] Colt 1911 [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/www.coltautos.com_images_1911_2425b.jpg[/IMG] and when I was into Class III/ Transferable weapons... Browning BAR [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/truthaboutguns_zippykid.netdna_ssl.com_wp_content_uploads_2013_10_P1310604_900x601.jpg[/IMG] Just the Browning guns that I've owned...he designed a lot more. Little side note about Browning; He was a Mormon and had to serve a mission for two years and he was assigned to Georgia. He and his partner would walk and try to convert people like they do today(on bicycles). He had just designed and it went into operation..the 1887 shotgun while he was in Georgia. Away from wife, children, and gun inventing to serve a two-year mission in Georgia. Once during his mission, he and his companion stopped to visit a sporting goods store that had on display a brand new Winchester 87 repeating shotgun. The proprietor was surprised at how facilely the besuited out-of-towner handled the weapon and operated the action. When the proprietor observed that John obviously knew how to handle the gun, John’s companion replied, “He ought to. He invented it.” The Trench Gun 1897 used in WW I, got the Germans attention...especially when they signed the peace treaty!! Although the Model 1897 was popular with American troops in WW I, the Germans soon began to protest its use in combat. "On 19 September 1918, the German government issued a diplomatic protest against the American use of shotguns, alleging that the shotgun was prohibited by the law of war. A part of the German protest read that "it is especially forbidden to employ arms, projections, or materials calculated to cause unnecessary suffering" as defined in 1907 convention. This is the only known occasion in which the legality of actual combat use of the shotgun has been raised. However, the United States interpreted their use of the shotgun differently than Germany. The Judge Advocate General of the Army, Secretary of State carefully considered and reviewed the applicable law and promptly rejected the German protest. France and Britain considered using shotguns as trench weapons during WWI. The shotgun in question was a double barrel shotgun which was not used because they were unable to obtain high powered ammo and that type of gun is slow to reload in close combat. [SIZE=4][B]German Response[/B][/SIZE] The rejection of their protest greatly upset the German forces, because they believed they were treated unjustly in the war. Shortly after the protest was rejected, Germany issued threats that they would punish all captured American soldiers that were found to be armed with a shotgun.. (1897) This led to the United States issuing a retaliation threat, stating that any measures unjustly taken against captured American soldiers would lead to an equal act by the United States on captured German soldiers. [/QUOTE]
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