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Trump Issues Full Pardons To Oregon Ranchers(Hammonds) Forced Back Into Prison Under Anti-Terror Law
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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 3133325" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>I get there were federal sentencing guidelines in place the judge ignored. I guess if I believe in jury nullification, I have to believe in judge nullification too. Obama's DoJ didn't have to challenge the sentence handed down and if I were given on sentence, served it and someone came to put me back in prison for a sentence I'd already served, I'd be pissed too! I honestly don't think either Holder or Lynch would've done the same if the convicted was a minority. So yes I'm OK with these pardons.</p><p></p><p>As for the Libby & D'Souza pardons, I'm of two minds. D'Souza's penalty should've been civil (fine), but the Obama DoJ weaponized selective prosecution for political purposes (something some Obama holdovers in the system continue to do to this day). So I'm OK with D'Souza's pardon, even though I don't condone what he did. Libby's prosecution turns out after the fact, to be another byproduct of James Comey's view of "justice". Comey wanted payback on Libby and the only way he was going to back off was if Libby gave damning criminal information to Comey on Dick Cheney (for a guy who's allegedly a Republican, he sure seems to have a hardon for GOP operators while going easy on Dems). I think the evidence on Libby was flimsy, so I fully support the pardon in that case.</p><p></p><p>What I do appreciate is that Trump doesn't wait till the waning days of his administration to issue pardons. He's done so for various reasons to people on the far ends of the spectrum that is our society. Right or wrong, that speaks of Trump's conviction and I'm OK with that too. JMO, YMMV</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 3133325, member: 1132"] I get there were federal sentencing guidelines in place the judge ignored. I guess if I believe in jury nullification, I have to believe in judge nullification too. Obama's DoJ didn't have to challenge the sentence handed down and if I were given on sentence, served it and someone came to put me back in prison for a sentence I'd already served, I'd be pissed too! I honestly don't think either Holder or Lynch would've done the same if the convicted was a minority. So yes I'm OK with these pardons. As for the Libby & D'Souza pardons, I'm of two minds. D'Souza's penalty should've been civil (fine), but the Obama DoJ weaponized selective prosecution for political purposes (something some Obama holdovers in the system continue to do to this day). So I'm OK with D'Souza's pardon, even though I don't condone what he did. Libby's prosecution turns out after the fact, to be another byproduct of James Comey's view of "justice". Comey wanted payback on Libby and the only way he was going to back off was if Libby gave damning criminal information to Comey on Dick Cheney (for a guy who's allegedly a Republican, he sure seems to have a hardon for GOP operators while going easy on Dems). I think the evidence on Libby was flimsy, so I fully support the pardon in that case. What I do appreciate is that Trump doesn't wait till the waning days of his administration to issue pardons. He's done so for various reasons to people on the far ends of the spectrum that is our society. Right or wrong, that speaks of Trump's conviction and I'm OK with that too. JMO, YMMV [/QUOTE]
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