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<blockquote data-quote="MBowman325" data-source="post: 1290532" data-attributes="member: 6825"><p>I always breaks my heart to see US Flag Code violations on TV as the camera is panning around the crowd. It makes me want to educate those people that the US Flag is not to be used as a blanket, dragging against the bleachers with their spilled sodas and crushed candies, held by hands that are feeding greasy nachos and sometimes absorbing the sweat of the person wrapping it around them. </p><p></p><p>Of all the places, this weekend I was taken to the OU v Air Force game and there was a guy in a green flight suit, patriotic hat and shoes with the Flag wrapped around his shoulders, which he'd occasional hold up and shake. </p><p></p><p>Being as the stadium was essentially full, I couldn't get to him to talk to him about it until he got up. I ran him down and asked him if he was aware he was violating the US Flag Code. He said no, and that Olympians do the same thing. I quizzed him real quick if he was an actual service member (said he was a Lt that had graduated from the AF Academy a couple of years ago) and claimed full ignorace of the US Flag code other than letting it touch the ground because then you have to burn it and then non-sense on the Texas Flag. </p><p></p><p>Since he didn't believe me, I asked if he had a few minutes to let me pull up the flag code online and I'd show him the sections he was violating, and he agreed. So we went over the not-to-be-worn section, not-to-touch-anything-below section and I tossed in the should-never-be-horizontal part. </p><p></p><p>He thanked me for educating him but said he would not change the way he would continue to wear the flag as he had been for the duration of the game and then afterwards would promise to never do it again.. I explained that as a US citizen, he has every right to disrespect the flag ans desecrate it but as a US serviceman, the fact that he was displaying the flag at odds with the Flag code, knowingly, seemed quite wrong. Also, it was an arbitrary timeframe he'd invented. </p><p></p><p>I offered to buy it from him for cash on me at the time ($55) to which he replied that he liked that flag, it was his flag and hurricane proof. Then he stated it was complex, repeated the line about the Olympians, pointing out that maybe only 5 people in the whole stadium knew about the US Flag Code and (paraphrasing) said he was a stubborn ass and that was why he would continue to treat the flag in a disrespectful manner. </p><p></p><p>So, two questions: I would think that all service members would be required to learn of the Flag Code, right? I have a hard time believing that Academy, OTC/OCS or ROTC graduates would not be taught the US Flag Code. It's not that long. </p><p></p><p>Most service members are also US Citizens - I would think that violations of Flag Code for a service member would be highly discouraged by the chain of command.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MBowman325, post: 1290532, member: 6825"] I always breaks my heart to see US Flag Code violations on TV as the camera is panning around the crowd. It makes me want to educate those people that the US Flag is not to be used as a blanket, dragging against the bleachers with their spilled sodas and crushed candies, held by hands that are feeding greasy nachos and sometimes absorbing the sweat of the person wrapping it around them. Of all the places, this weekend I was taken to the OU v Air Force game and there was a guy in a green flight suit, patriotic hat and shoes with the Flag wrapped around his shoulders, which he'd occasional hold up and shake. Being as the stadium was essentially full, I couldn't get to him to talk to him about it until he got up. I ran him down and asked him if he was aware he was violating the US Flag Code. He said no, and that Olympians do the same thing. I quizzed him real quick if he was an actual service member (said he was a Lt that had graduated from the AF Academy a couple of years ago) and claimed full ignorace of the US Flag code other than letting it touch the ground because then you have to burn it and then non-sense on the Texas Flag. Since he didn't believe me, I asked if he had a few minutes to let me pull up the flag code online and I'd show him the sections he was violating, and he agreed. So we went over the not-to-be-worn section, not-to-touch-anything-below section and I tossed in the should-never-be-horizontal part. He thanked me for educating him but said he would not change the way he would continue to wear the flag as he had been for the duration of the game and then afterwards would promise to never do it again.. I explained that as a US citizen, he has every right to disrespect the flag ans desecrate it but as a US serviceman, the fact that he was displaying the flag at odds with the Flag code, knowingly, seemed quite wrong. Also, it was an arbitrary timeframe he'd invented. I offered to buy it from him for cash on me at the time ($55) to which he replied that he liked that flag, it was his flag and hurricane proof. Then he stated it was complex, repeated the line about the Olympians, pointing out that maybe only 5 people in the whole stadium knew about the US Flag Code and (paraphrasing) said he was a stubborn ass and that was why he would continue to treat the flag in a disrespectful manner. So, two questions: I would think that all service members would be required to learn of the Flag Code, right? I have a hard time believing that Academy, OTC/OCS or ROTC graduates would not be taught the US Flag Code. It's not that long. Most service members are also US Citizens - I would think that violations of Flag Code for a service member would be highly discouraged by the chain of command. [/QUOTE]
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