USA, the Most Obese Country on Earth

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All people and their spouses covered under our health insurance at our company are required to take health screenings or face very large insurance premium increases. As of now, your results don't affect your premiums, you just have to do it. This will most likely change soon.

Scarcity industrialism is coming folks. Its tentacles will reach far and wide.

There may come a time where the phrase "I'm fat and happy" includes two mutually exclusive words.



Many things are coming. But those who "have theirs" think they'll get to keep it and don't care about those who have already lost "theirs".
The noose will continue to tighten and the number of those who "have theirs will shrink and the price, (conformity, submission) for "having theirs" will rise.
I suspect it will continue because the "pie" is shrinking while most just insist that they keep getting the same serving size, they don't care about the pieces being stolen or those who didn't get a piece at all.
 

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I often wonder if health insurance is worth it.

You could end up having it for years and years and years and never use it.

Having it for that one time it saves you from a 5 or 6 figure hospital bill makes it all worth it. (Luckily I haven't needed it for anything like that yet.. *knock on wood*)
 

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The first time I read thru this thread I got a little agitated. Not with the arguments against the cost, health risks etc. related to obesity but with some of the other comments. I just wanted to point out a couple of things if I may.

1. I am a flawed human being.
2. I am fat.

What makes a man have the will power to turn away from alcohol but not tobacco? Or to have the will power to turn away from a casino but not the bakery? I don't know. I wish I did. I think in some ways all of us are flawed as humans.

Just wanted to stick up for myself a little bit here, I am not arguing against any of the proven facts about obesity, many of which have been cited in this thread. I know what is healthy and what is not. I have known which foods are good and which are bad since childhood. It is not my parents fault. It's not McDonald's fault. It's mine and mine alone. It's an individual choice to get healthy or not. You can't make that choice for me, as much as you would like to. I can not make you put out that cigarette, pass up that casino, stop at 2 drinks or not take those pills, as much as I would like to. No legislation will alter my behavior. No societal scorn will make me alter my behavior. I suspect it is the same with most people. Hopefully, I will alter my own behavior before I have a grabber one day and some poor EMT crew has to load me on a gurney.

I guess I went the long way of saying it's an individual's choice what they put into their body and the results they get out of it. If you could put will power in a pill you'd be a rich S.O.B.
 

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I guess I went the long way of saying it's an individual's choice what they put into their body and the results they get out of it.
This used to be true. In the old days if you smoked or over indulged in other ways you were responsible for the costs. If you had no money to pay the costs of treatment you didn't get it.
When our society passed laws making your neighbors financially responsible for your health they made what you put in your body affect others. If your neighbor is asked to pick up the costs for your individual choice should they not have a say in that choice to begin with?

Universal health care will be the most intrusive legislation we have ever put on our individual rights. It is the doorway to let government in to every aspect of your life. Every choice you make in your life can have an effect on your health. If government paying for that cost its only reasonable that they will impose their will on those formally individual choices.

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I often wonder if health insurance is worth it.

You won't question its worth after you reach your 60's, even sooner if, God forbid, something happens to you or your family. I hate paying the premiums because I know I'm over paying for an over priced business. But that insurance card is your key into the health care system when you need it.
 

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Looks like greece wins!

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