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<blockquote data-quote="SMS" data-source="post: 2777990" data-attributes="member: 42"><p>Yeah, semantics. Ok. </p><p></p><p>The VA is not deciding whether or not vets can continue to purchase guns or not. They are complying with public law that requires them to report certain individuals to NICS based on determinations of mental competence (that determination does not revolve around competence with firearms at all), as all federal agencies are required to do.</p><p></p><p>The problem (yes, there is a problem and I never said it wasn't a big deal) is the standards being used to determine competence and the due process afforded those facing that determination (there is due process, but it's not very thorough). The letters are real, but they say nothing about the VA taking guns. They advise the veteran that whatever claim they are filing could result in a determination of mental incompetence, which could in-turn affect their ability to purchase firearms. Period. I've received one myself.</p><p></p><p>Not sure why that's so hard to understand...or why it's hard to understand that untruthful articles about "VA gun confiscation has started in Idaho" and armed standoffs with non-existent VA gun grabbers doesn't really help. </p><p></p><p>Instead of writing our congressmen reasoned, articulate letters explain the real problem, or sending money to veterans advocate groups, we react to click bait articles of some podunk sheriff standing in front of a vets house to <em>protect</em> him from a gun grab that was never going to happen in the first place. We beat our chests, yell 'Merica, and go back to looking at titties on TV.</p><p></p><p>How many times have any of you written your congressman or taken any other grassroots action on this issue since the stories and mystery letters started flying around 5 years ago (or more)?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SMS, post: 2777990, member: 42"] Yeah, semantics. Ok. The VA is not deciding whether or not vets can continue to purchase guns or not. They are complying with public law that requires them to report certain individuals to NICS based on determinations of mental competence (that determination does not revolve around competence with firearms at all), as all federal agencies are required to do. The problem (yes, there is a problem and I never said it wasn't a big deal) is the standards being used to determine competence and the due process afforded those facing that determination (there is due process, but it's not very thorough). The letters are real, but they say nothing about the VA taking guns. They advise the veteran that whatever claim they are filing could result in a determination of mental incompetence, which could in-turn affect their ability to purchase firearms. Period. I've received one myself. Not sure why that's so hard to understand...or why it's hard to understand that untruthful articles about "VA gun confiscation has started in Idaho" and armed standoffs with non-existent VA gun grabbers doesn't really help. Instead of writing our congressmen reasoned, articulate letters explain the real problem, or sending money to veterans advocate groups, we react to click bait articles of some podunk sheriff standing in front of a vets house to [I]protect[/I] him from a gun grab that was never going to happen in the first place. We beat our chests, yell 'Merica, and go back to looking at titties on TV. How many times have any of you written your congressman or taken any other grassroots action on this issue since the stories and mystery letters started flying around 5 years ago (or more)? [/QUOTE]
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