VA tried to take vets gun.

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TenBears

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The .gov is so reasonable, we can trust them with psychological/medical records.


http://www.khq.com/story/29726937/priest-river-community-stands-up-for-veteran-facing-gun-seizure


UPDATE: North Idaho veteran John Arnold found himself in the middle of a political firestorm Thursday afternoon. The vet suffered a stroke and, under the Brady Handgun Act, was found to be mentally incompetent to own a firearm by Veteran Affairs.


The Brady Handgun act is a system for determining if prospective firearms buyers can buy that gun. Part of the Brady act utilizes a system called the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. It instantly alerts a seller if a potential buyer is a felon, or has otherwise been flagged and can't legally buy the gun.

The NICS is constantly updated with new people appearing on it all the time. A name can also be manually added in emergency situations by, for example, mental health care providers, police departments or family members requesting placement of an individual into the NICS system.

That is what happened in this case. John Arnold's name was added to the NICS list by a mental health professional. When the list was updated and his name showed up, he was in jeopardy of losing his weapons. Until Rep. Heather Scott, and many others stepped in. At one point there are dozens of people in front of Arnold's home protesting what they called a violation of Arnold's rights.

Bonner County Sheriff Daryl Wheeler also stood up for Arnold's rights. He told a VA rep that his office would stop any inspection and attempt at a weapons seizure.

Around 1:30pm, the VA announced it would not be conducting an inspection of Arnold's home.
 

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Clown shoes. The VA was not "coming for his guns". The VA does not confiscate guns.

This a cheap publicity stunt that distracts from the real issues involving federal mandates on federal agency reporting of mentally defective/incompetent persons and the due process surrounding that reporting/determination.

All they ended up doing is probably delaying or complicating the veteran's assistance claim.

Click bait bullsh%t like this infuriates me.
 

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Clown shoes. The VA was not "coming for his guns". The VA does not confiscate guns.

This a cheap publicity stunt that distracts from the real issues involving federal mandates on federal agency reporting of mentally defective/incompetent persons and the due process surrounding that reporting/determination.

All they ended up doing is probably delaying or complicating the veteran's assistance claim.

Click bait bullsh%t like this infuriates me.

you work for the VA don't you. lol
 

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Clown shoes. The VA was not "coming for his guns". The VA does not confiscate guns.

This a cheap publicity stunt that distracts from the real issues involving federal mandates on federal agency reporting of mentally defective/incompetent persons and the due process surrounding that reporting/determination.

All they ended up doing is probably delaying or complicating the veteran's assistance claim.

Click bait bullsh%t like this infuriates me.

Due process??? The man had a piece of paper from the VA saying they were coming to his home to inspect it for weapons all because he had a stroke. Having a stroke doesn't automatically disqualify you from a Constitutional right. Careful you don't trip over your own clown shoes, Clarabell.
 

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Due process??? The man had a piece of paper from the VA saying they were coming to his home to inspect it for weapons all because he had a stroke. Having a stroke doesn't automatically disqualify you from a Constitutional right. Careful you don't trip over your own clown shoes, Clarabell.

Agreed. Even if it were clickbait, it talks about Cornyn's bill, which would strip the VA of the ability to place someone on the NICS list without Due Process. That can't be a bad thing. :anyone:
 

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Due process??? The man had a piece of paper from the VA saying they were coming to his home to inspect it for weapons all because he had a stroke. Having a stroke doesn't automatically disqualify you from a Constitutional right. Careful you don't trip over your own clown shoes, Clarabell.

No, he didn't have a letter from the Va saying they were coming to his home to inspect it for weapons, nor was the VA about to, or empowered to confiscate them as the reporting suggests. I challenge anyone to find the letter.

He probably got the boilerplate letter that we've seen kicked around in breathless click bait articles for the last several years. "THE VA IS COMING FOR YOUR GUNS!!!" "THE VA IS DISARMING VETS!!!". None of which has come to life.

There is an issue here for sure, like I said. It has to do with the adjudication of mental health issues and federal mandates for reporting to NICS. The VA didn't create this mess.

It needs to be discussed and acted on but not with fake standoffs with non-existent VA firearms confiscators.
 

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No, he didn't have a letter from the Va saying they were coming to his home to inspect it for weapons, nor was the VA about to, or empowered to confiscate them as the reporting suggests. I challenge anyone to find the letter.

He probably got the boilerplate letter that we've seen kicked around in breathless click bait articles for the last several years. "THE VA IS COMING FOR YOUR GUNS!!!" "THE VA IS DISARMING VETS!!!". None of which has come to life.

There is an issue here for sure, like I said. It has to do with the adjudication of mental health issues and federal mandates for reporting to NICS. The VA didn't create this mess.

It needs to be discussed and acted on but not with fake standoffs with non-existent VA firearms confiscators.

Did it ever occur to you that the VA may have gotten "orders" from the white house directly or indirectly? If that happened what would happen if they didn't implement such policy?
 

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