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<blockquote data-quote="jarhead983" data-source="post: 1508690" data-attributes="member: 7129"><p>OK, I've read every post and my questions are: 1) What are these signs of escalation that some have mentioned as the catalyst for them to act, and more importantly, how much time do you think you have to act before someone is shot after it appears to be more than a simple robery? 2) Why is Dawkins V State being argued? The determining factor against Dawkins was that they didnt prove that Bradley was facing death or grave bodily harm. There was nothing but conjecture that it was more than a fist fight. They argued that Bradley was in grave danger but the jury didnt believe it, rather from the facts or bias, it doesnt matter, the burden was on the defendant to prove that the use of deadly force was prudent. Remember Dawkins is night and day different from the OP, the brandishing of a weapon leapfrogs this to an imminent threat of death or grave bodily harm.</p><p></p><p>I would not be able to live with myself if someone elses death was the minimal catalyst for me to act. The perpetrator forfeited any right to a warning when he pointed that gun at someone. I cower to my wife and mom; no one else gets a free pass. Dont get me wrong, its not about bravado, its about refusing to be a passive victim. Every time a robber gets by with just a few dollars and a beer they are embolden. They start seeing everyone as sheep that they can fleece at will. Every psychopath started out with nickel / dime crimes, they build up to the big crimes because they got by with it because no one stopped them. Hell its hard enough to get anyone to even testify to what the saw, let alone to stop them. I wont be a victim on my knees when the bullet comes and I wont give them a sporting chance..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jarhead983, post: 1508690, member: 7129"] OK, I've read every post and my questions are: 1) What are these signs of escalation that some have mentioned as the catalyst for them to act, and more importantly, how much time do you think you have to act before someone is shot after it appears to be more than a simple robery? 2) Why is Dawkins V State being argued? The determining factor against Dawkins was that they didnt prove that Bradley was facing death or grave bodily harm. There was nothing but conjecture that it was more than a fist fight. They argued that Bradley was in grave danger but the jury didnt believe it, rather from the facts or bias, it doesnt matter, the burden was on the defendant to prove that the use of deadly force was prudent. Remember Dawkins is night and day different from the OP, the brandishing of a weapon leapfrogs this to an imminent threat of death or grave bodily harm. I would not be able to live with myself if someone elses death was the minimal catalyst for me to act. The perpetrator forfeited any right to a warning when he pointed that gun at someone. I cower to my wife and mom; no one else gets a free pass. Dont get me wrong, its not about bravado, its about refusing to be a passive victim. Every time a robber gets by with just a few dollars and a beer they are embolden. They start seeing everyone as sheep that they can fleece at will. Every psychopath started out with nickel / dime crimes, they build up to the big crimes because they got by with it because no one stopped them. Hell its hard enough to get anyone to even testify to what the saw, let alone to stop them. I wont be a victim on my knees when the bullet comes and I wont give them a sporting chance.. [/QUOTE]
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