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what about bringing a gun to a fistfight??
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<blockquote data-quote="nofearfactor" data-source="post: 803460" data-attributes="member: 1535"><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defense_(theory" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defense_(theory</a>)</p><p></p><p>As a former boxer and life long martial arts practioner and CCW permit holder I have never seen the need to practice what I have spent many hours learning on anybody outside of the gym,or dojo,or in competition. Ever. I dont care how many fights youve seen,heard of,or even been in on the street-most all are illegal. The bigger man walks on and scoffs at the moron who is just trying to 'get your goat'. Having 17" arms and a 17" neck doesnt hurt either.</p><p></p><p>You are 'called out'- just walk away. You are grabbed,or maybe even punched once,then just try to get away a little faster. If you do react then there is no such thing as self defense unless you feel that your life is being threatened with more force than what you have available(meaning the skills you may possess),or with a weapon,or you did everything possible to either end the situation by talking it down or walking away,or were attacked and backed into a corner and had no choice but to defend your self. Even then,if you were to fight back you may think that you are defending your self but you may now be in the eyes of the law a participant and now just as guilty as the aggressor. </p><p></p><p>And. Say you do get punched,and you are stupid enough to punch back,and in some freakish incident you either kill the guy in one punch or he hits his head on the sidewalk after you punch him and he dies. That was not self defense. You just killed someone. That may have been an accident,but you were fighting. Which is an illegal activity. You might now be defending yourself from a manslaughter charge. You used more force to defend your self than what was presented to you. You negated a self defense defense unless you can prove that you were retreating or had no other choice but to react. You still may go to jail,be getting a lawyer,missing work,and have to defend your self in court. A hell of a lot of trouble when you could have just walked away.</p><p></p><p>No one wants to be humiliated in front of their girl, or anybody. Or punched,***** slapped,whatever. But reacting to an escalating situation is just your pride talking. Ego. Legally its like with all of the responsibility of carrying a firearm-you have a great responsibility in this world to be the better thinker and go on down the road.</p><p></p><p>Ya ya,tough guys are gonna scoff at this. O well. You cant just punch anyone any where at any time for anything- unless you were threatened and retreated and were then backed into a corner with no other choice but to defend yourself. Sure it happens all the time,and youve seen people doing it all your life. Or youve done it and gotten away with it,or it was over in a few punches,etcetc. School yard fights,fights with a relative,with a neighbor,a best buddy,etcetc. Its the percieved usual way of handling things in this world. But, just because its always been done doesnt make it legal though.</p><p></p><p>Prisons are filled with people who reacted to what they thought was a self defense situation and then it turned out all wrong for them later when someone who started trouble with them got hurt worse than they did.</p><p></p><p>Use your brain and not your brawn and be the bigger man and just walk away. Youre not being a coward. Youre being a human being who is smart enough to know when to walk away. Your girlfriend getting flirted with was not a physical threat to your safety. Just your pride.</p><p></p><p>Heres an idea for these wannabe badboys. Take it to the gym. Invite the guy to the gym to put the gloves on and do it in a controlled manner- after everyone has calmed down. Most people will just shut up and go away. Unless you just challenged a boxer or a fighter. Well,then be prepared for a beating,with gloves on it wont hurt as bad though,and you may learn a few moves in the process. And everyone is alive and no one went to jail.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nofearfactor, post: 803460, member: 1535"] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defense_(theory[/url]) As a former boxer and life long martial arts practioner and CCW permit holder I have never seen the need to practice what I have spent many hours learning on anybody outside of the gym,or dojo,or in competition. Ever. I dont care how many fights youve seen,heard of,or even been in on the street-most all are illegal. The bigger man walks on and scoffs at the moron who is just trying to 'get your goat'. Having 17" arms and a 17" neck doesnt hurt either. You are 'called out'- just walk away. You are grabbed,or maybe even punched once,then just try to get away a little faster. If you do react then there is no such thing as self defense unless you feel that your life is being threatened with more force than what you have available(meaning the skills you may possess),or with a weapon,or you did everything possible to either end the situation by talking it down or walking away,or were attacked and backed into a corner and had no choice but to defend your self. Even then,if you were to fight back you may think that you are defending your self but you may now be in the eyes of the law a participant and now just as guilty as the aggressor. And. Say you do get punched,and you are stupid enough to punch back,and in some freakish incident you either kill the guy in one punch or he hits his head on the sidewalk after you punch him and he dies. That was not self defense. You just killed someone. That may have been an accident,but you were fighting. Which is an illegal activity. You might now be defending yourself from a manslaughter charge. You used more force to defend your self than what was presented to you. You negated a self defense defense unless you can prove that you were retreating or had no other choice but to react. You still may go to jail,be getting a lawyer,missing work,and have to defend your self in court. A hell of a lot of trouble when you could have just walked away. No one wants to be humiliated in front of their girl, or anybody. Or punched,***** slapped,whatever. But reacting to an escalating situation is just your pride talking. Ego. Legally its like with all of the responsibility of carrying a firearm-you have a great responsibility in this world to be the better thinker and go on down the road. Ya ya,tough guys are gonna scoff at this. O well. You cant just punch anyone any where at any time for anything- unless you were threatened and retreated and were then backed into a corner with no other choice but to defend yourself. Sure it happens all the time,and youve seen people doing it all your life. Or youve done it and gotten away with it,or it was over in a few punches,etcetc. School yard fights,fights with a relative,with a neighbor,a best buddy,etcetc. Its the percieved usual way of handling things in this world. But, just because its always been done doesnt make it legal though. Prisons are filled with people who reacted to what they thought was a self defense situation and then it turned out all wrong for them later when someone who started trouble with them got hurt worse than they did. Use your brain and not your brawn and be the bigger man and just walk away. Youre not being a coward. Youre being a human being who is smart enough to know when to walk away. Your girlfriend getting flirted with was not a physical threat to your safety. Just your pride. Heres an idea for these wannabe badboys. Take it to the gym. Invite the guy to the gym to put the gloves on and do it in a controlled manner- after everyone has calmed down. Most people will just shut up and go away. Unless you just challenged a boxer or a fighter. Well,then be prepared for a beating,with gloves on it wont hurt as bad though,and you may learn a few moves in the process. And everyone is alive and no one went to jail. [/QUOTE]
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