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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Brown" data-source="post: 59627" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>One last thing about attorneys and the advice it sounds like is prominent in these SDA classes.</p><p></p><p>Tulsa has approximately 60 criminal homicides per year. With the thousands of lawyers in the area, the vast majority have never even handled a homicide case. Those that have are not arguing that their client did what is being alleged but it was legal. They are arguing that their guy didn't do it. That's not the argument in self-defense.</p><p></p><p>Tulsa probably only has a dozen or less justifiable homicides per year. Few of those even reach the point of anyone needing a lawyer.</p><p></p><p>This means that the chances of encountering a lawyer that has any experience dealing with a justifiable homicide are so low that they are statictically insignificant.</p><p></p><p>This is probably why the explanations given at these SDA classes sound like they came right out of a first year law student's textbook. Chances are, that's EXACTLY where they came from.</p><p></p><p>I simply don't trust that minimal level of experience.</p><p></p><p>Ironically, I had this conversation with a former municipal judge, ADA, and current private attorney that I bumped into at dinner last night. This is a guy who was in court all the time not just when he was forced to be.</p><p></p><p>He felt it would be ludicrous to just exclaim the classic bad guy defense of "I'm not talking until I get my lawyer."</p><p></p><p>As I said before, you pays your money, you takes your chances.</p><p></p><p>Michael Brown</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Brown, post: 59627, member: 18"] One last thing about attorneys and the advice it sounds like is prominent in these SDA classes. Tulsa has approximately 60 criminal homicides per year. With the thousands of lawyers in the area, the vast majority have never even handled a homicide case. Those that have are not arguing that their client did what is being alleged but it was legal. They are arguing that their guy didn't do it. That's not the argument in self-defense. Tulsa probably only has a dozen or less justifiable homicides per year. Few of those even reach the point of anyone needing a lawyer. This means that the chances of encountering a lawyer that has any experience dealing with a justifiable homicide are so low that they are statictically insignificant. This is probably why the explanations given at these SDA classes sound like they came right out of a first year law student's textbook. Chances are, that's EXACTLY where they came from. I simply don't trust that minimal level of experience. Ironically, I had this conversation with a former municipal judge, ADA, and current private attorney that I bumped into at dinner last night. This is a guy who was in court all the time not just when he was forced to be. He felt it would be ludicrous to just exclaim the classic bad guy defense of "I'm not talking until I get my lawyer." As I said before, you pays your money, you takes your chances. Michael Brown [/QUOTE]
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