How can they search your car? Under what right do they have. Its your domain. I see how they could search your belongings or person that you bring in and out of their structure of business. But your car?
Employers can forbid guns, a judge rules, issues an injunction against OK law.
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How can they search your car? Under what right do they have. Its your domain. I see how they could search your belongings or person that you bring in and out of their structure of business. But your car?
My home is not the property of Oklahoma, it is in Oklahoma. I also think the issue of a state banning guns from their borders is a completely separate issue than a private institution not wanting guns inside of it's "borders".
With your logic, my pants are my domain, so I should be able to carry anywhere I go. Which would have to include federal property, etc. It just doesn't work that way.
The difference between between your own home and a vehicle is that vehicle's can travel onto someone else's property/domain. Granted, a mobile home could to.
Now, an argument that would be far more pervasive to me would be that this could open up some sort of door for Target, Wally World, and other places to ban firearms from locked vehicles on their premises.
With your logic, my pants are my domain, so I should be able to carry anywhere I go. Which would have to include federal property, etc. It just doesn't work that way.
The difference between between your own home and a vehicle is that vehicle's can travel onto someone else's property/domain. Granted, a mobile home could to.
Now, an argument that would be far more pervasive to me would be that this could open up some sort of door for Target, Wally World, and other places to ban firearms from locked vehicles on their premises.
I think you can refuse to allow them to search your car, but they can fire you for it. If I'm not mistaken, they have to have a valid reason to search it (Except when i worked at tinker, it was just random). If they don't have a valid reason, it's lawsuit city. I personally don't think private employers should be allowed to search cars. If they think something is up, call the police.
Hell no!
The police actually know how to search a car and would probably find something...
I'd pit their expertise in the matter against my employer's any day of the week.
Ha-ha, the only time the police (A Canadian County Sherrif's Deputy) searched my car it was illegal, and I didn't have anything to hide anyway.
Hell no!
The police actually know how to search a car and would probably find something...
I'd pit their expertise in the matter against my employer's any day of the week.
This still does not apply to concealed carry permits though does it?
Still it's a pile of crap that some law from 1970 overrides the 2nd amendment.
Still it's a pile of crap that some law from 1970 overrides the 2nd amendment.
Yes, it does apply to CCW permits, the judge just placed an injunction on the part of the SDA that states an employer may not limit the storage of firearms on their property.
They can get probable cause by bringing dogs in to sniff, if they get a hit, they have PC. This is how both Conoco Philips and Whirpool fired their employee's and triggered this lawsuit. The dogs got hits, if the person refused a search of their vehicle, they were fired. If they consented to a search, and they found weapons, they were fired.
What I have in my locked vehicle is no ones business but mine. As long as it is legal to own, it should be legal to have in my car.
They can get probable cause by bringing dogs in to sniff, if they get a hit, they have PC. This is how both Conoco Philips and Whirpool fired their employee's and triggered this lawsuit. The dogs got hits, if the person refused a search of their vehicle, they were fired. If they consented to a search, and they found weapons, they were fired.
What I have in my locked vehicle is no ones business but mine. As long as it is legal to own, it should be legal to have in my car.
Many companies have search policies. Not all of them make a point of posting the policies. These company "rules" many times state that anything on company property can be searched.
Lockers.
Lunch Pails.
Cars.
Your person.
You can refuse but then you would be terminated.
I dont know that it is right. But I have seen places that have these rules.
Michael
Lockers.
Lunch Pails.
Cars.
Your person.
You can refuse but then you would be terminated.
I dont know that it is right. But I have seen places that have these rules.
Michael
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