Illegal immigrants can pass TSA security checkpoints at the airport without identification.

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WASHINGTON (TND) — A firestorm has erupted online after it was revealed illegal immigrants can pass TSA security checkpoints at the airport without identification that is required of everyone else. This comes as President Joe Biden said the southern border is not secure and had not been for the past 10 years.

Former Head of Customs and Border Protection Mark Morgan joined The National Desk’s Jan Jeffcoat to discuss the issue.

“It's extremely alarming. This has been going on since day one for the past three years. This is just the first time they posted these procedures for the entire country to see and I think it's important that everyone understands. If you and I went there, the first thing we’d do at most major metropolitan airports is that you put your ID into a machine,” he said. “Something very important is happening there. They're checking that against the series of databases to make sure that you pose no threat. Then when you step up to have your picture taken, what's happening there is facial comparison. They're comparing your photo to the ID to make sure you're the person on the ID. It's a very important needed and effective system.”

New TSA rules allow migrants to use the CBP One app for ID to board a commercial plane. Sen. Ted Cruz wrote a letter to Secretary Mayorkas stating in part, “While Americans must present an acceptable form of identification to fly or at least have their identities confirmed, TSA is permitting illegal aliens without ID to opt for an alternate identity verification process utilizing the CBP One app which takes illegal aliens at their word.”

“The reason why the illegal alien taking their pictures is optional is because there's nothing to compare it to. There is no picture in this system. They're not presenting any government ID with the picture on it. They simply have a piece of paper and this is how this works,” Morgan said. “They come across our border illegally. They leave intentionally their IDs on the Mexican side because it can make it harder for the federal government to identify them. They asked who they are. The illegal alien provides information, we take it down. The majority of the time, we have no way to verify it, but that's who they are. They have a piece of paper and that's what they use to fly anywhere in the United States. This administration is trying to tell us that that doesn't pose a threat. It's absurd.”

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I've largely stopped following the news. The USA is fading into oblivion. There are too many contrary forces at work. A traitorous government. A Congress (Repugnants and DemocRATs) that functions exactly as Wayne LaPierre did (as head of the NRA). An all pervasive WOKE insanity. Nihilistic violence/existential despair throughout the media, video games, etc.

The list goes on. And this governmental orchestrated invasion by our enemies is a huge slap in the face. A big middle finger from the White House and Congress because they know we'll do nothing about it. And how do they know that? Because we'll do nothing about it.

Anyway, back to ignoring the news.
 
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It's always been possible to go through the airport without ID. It's a real pain, but it's always been possible.

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequent...fication-can-i-still-proceed-through-security
Absolutely irrelevant to the discussion. These illegals are not having to jump through any hoops, whatsoever. Decent citizens (who play by the rules) have to jump through hoops to do what you say. "It's a pain only to them."

Illegals get a free pass. That's the topic under discussion.
 

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Absolutely irrelevant to the discussion. These illegals are not having to jump through any hoops, whatsoever. Decent citizens (who play by the rules) have to jump through hoops to do what you say. "It's a pain only to them."

Illegals get a free pass. That's the topic under discussion.
Actually no --- it's the same topic. The app in question is used to get people seeking asylum in CBP system. As such, it's creating an identity record for them. So if they get to an airport without other forms of ID, then that identity record serves the exact same purpose for them as TSA looking up information about a US citizen/PR in their systems. It's simply establishing identity. That's not a free pass.

If anything, that's establishing better tracking and survelliance of folks in the country with applications compared to someone that might come in and then disappear from the radar.

Question is, why are they allowed at the airport to begin with?
Shocking thing here, but airports are designed to get people in and out. Like, they're not some exclusive club. There's no requirement to be a citizen to use them. Don't have to be a permanent resident. Don't have to really have any qualifications. Now, if you have warrants then it might be dumb to go there, but otherwise....

Also shocking... the same thing applies to other modes of transit. Busses, Trains, Taxis, Uber, Cars (except for license requirements but the US does allow many foreign drivers licenses the same way other countries honor our licenses with certain conditions).
 

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And just as a follow-up, it may be worth pointing out that TSA doesn't enforce immigration policy...their job is airport security theatre. But they can refer individuals to CBP. So if someone who is not of legal residence wanted to fly, they'd be pretty stupid to do so.

But if they are here with an active asylum case, or part of anther legal deferred action program, they CAN travel. At that point they can use almost any unexpired ID from home, OR the CBP app that's the topic here.
 

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And just as a follow-up, it may be worth pointing out that TSA doesn't enforce immigration policy...their job is airport security theatre. But they can refer individuals to CBP. So if someone who is not of legal residence wanted to fly, they'd be pretty stupid to do so.

But if they are here with an active asylum case, or part of anther legal deferred action program, they CAN travel. At that point they can use almost any unexpired ID from home, OR the CBP app that's the topic here.
Your full of chit and part of the problem. You're totally OK with all of this and it's a shame. The CBP app that Biden put out is garbage. Sure it's used to get illegals in the system but that app still doesn't verify who the illegal truly is. Illegals invade our country and purposely don't bring any ID. Then CBP puts in the info/identity the illegals claim they are (made up name and address from their home country) and that is what is put in the CBP app. How many bad people came across the border with bad intentions and gave fake names and can't be verified under Biden's rules? And now they can fly on pretty much a fake ID. The rest of us are just expected to think this process at the airports is all hunky-dory and have no problems with it? It's a bullsh!t process and you know it. Sorry bro, but it's people like you that vote for this sorta crap that is ruining our country.
 

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Your full of chit and part of the problem. You're totally OK with all of this and it's a shame. The CBP app that Biden put out is garbage. Sure it's used to get illegals in the system but that app still doesn't verify who the illegal truly is. Illegals invade our country and purposely don't bring any ID. Then CBP puts in the info/identity the illegals claim they are (made up name and address from their home country) and that is what is put in the CBP app. How many bad people came across the border with bad intentions and gave fake names and can't be verified under Biden's rules? And now they can fly on pretty much a fake ID. The rest of us are just expected to think this process at the airports is all hunky-dory and have no problems with it? It's a bullsh!t process and you know it. Sorry bro, but it's people like you that vote for this sorta crap that is ruining our country.
Not sure if you've flown anywhere in the last couple of decades but all the security is theatre anyways.

Any yeah, I'd rather have been information about who is flying around. The bad guys are not going to be going through the trouble of trying to put in an asylum claim, going through scrutiny, and giving any data on themselves to anyone. Remember how all kinds of folks say the border is like swiss cheese right? They'd just go through the holes. I know it's asking a bit, but think critically. No one with those bad intentions is going through the time and effort to get the extra attention so they can fly domestic in Y (because they'd sure stick out like crazy in J and F).

If they've got suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch mega scary bad intentions, they'd get a vehicle and just drive from border to target. Lot easier to hide there. I've gone back and forth across this country 20 times without so much as a traffic stop, and now that I think about it, I could have been doing any number of bad things.

Once you get past all the apocalyptic talk and think about it the situation is going to seem a lot different. For all the talk about terrorists and sleeper agents and "military age men" invading us, there's literally nothing going on. Americans are still far and away the number one people committing crime against Americans --- but that's okay, we don't want to deal with that really.

The people that are going through and eating the crap we're shoveling to try to get in on an asylum claim are going to try to be as accurate as possible too since any inaccuracy is going to cause a rejection, denial and deportation.
 

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