Hospital carry

[KOPBET]

My Little brother went to er last night not feeling good. He's ok, nothing major just a sinus infection.

Seriously? I wouldn't go to the ER unless I was dying or carried there.

 

[watchcollector1968]

What about OSU? I am assuming since it is a teaching hospital that it is considered a campus of OSU and therefore off limits?

 

[redmax51]

I work security at St.Francis,it's not against the law but it's against policy here.If you're caught and you are a visitor,we're going to escort you to your car and have you lock it in it.If you're being admitted and don't have anyone with you to take it,we're going to take it to our office and lock it up until you leave.

 

[redmax51]

where it seems grey to me is if the hospital is govt owned, funded, and operated

St. Francis is owned/funded by the Warren Foundation,don't know about St. Johns

 

[redmax51]

Seriously? I wouldn't go to the ER unless I was dying or carried there.

Good for you,I wish more people felt that way so our ER wouldn't be clogged up with people with headaches and runny noses.

 

[cueball]

Seriously? I wouldn't go to the ER unless I was dying or carried there.

We don't usually go. He has never had one before and it hit him pretty hard. His head was swimming and he was vomiting and beginning to passout. To him he thought he was dying.

 

[Stephen Cue]

What about OSU? I am assuming since it is a teaching hospital that it is considered a campus of OSU and therefore off limits?

OSU falls under "Business Owner's Rights" and not under a governmental or school entity unlawful carry situation. Therefore the penalty could be trespassing. Tulsa does not have an ordinance banning guns on college campuses. Stillwater may have such an ordinance though

The unlawful carry at schools is only for places where high school age kids & below attend.

 

[bettingpython]

OSU health center downtown is owned by a cooperative trust of St. Francis, St. Johns and hillcrest in partnership with OSU. That was done in order to keep it's doors open otherwise the other 3 could not have absorbed the influx of indigent patients.

2 years ago St. Johns employees didn't get raises because they poured their money into the trusts purchase of the medical center.

It is not a college campus either, it is a teaching hospital.

FYI St. Johns is actually St. Johns catholic owned and managed they receive a lot of financial support from the Kaiser foundation.

I don't ever want to go to St. Francis if I am sick or injured.

 

[vvvvvvv]

The unlawful carry at schools is only for places where high school age kids & below attend.

21 O.S. § 1277

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D. No person in possession of any concealed handgun pursuant to the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act shall be authorized to carry the handgun into or upon any college or university property, except as provided in this subsection. For purposes of this subsection, the following property shall not be construed as prohibited for persons having a valid concealed handgun license:

1. Any property set aside for the use of any vehicle, whether attended or unattended, provided the handgun is carried or stored as required by law and the handgun is not removed from the vehicle without the prior consent of the college or university president while the vehicle is on any college or university property;

2. Any property authorized for possession or use of handguns by college or university policy; and

3. Any property authorized by the written consent of the college or university president, provided the written consent is carried with the handgun and the valid concealed handgun license while on college or university property.

The college or university may notify the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation within ten (10) days of a violation of any provision of this subsection by a licensee. Upon receipt of a written notification of violation, the Bureau shall give a reasonable notice to the licensee and hold a hearing. At the hearing upon a determination that the licensee has violated any provision of this subsection, the licensee may be subject to an administrative fine of Two Hundred Fifty Dollars ($250.00) and may have the concealed handgun license suspended for three (3) months.

Nothing contained in any provision of this subsection shall be construed to authorize or allow any college or university to establish any policy or rule that has the effect of prohibiting any person in lawful possession of a concealed handgun license from possession of a handgun allowable under such license in places described in paragraphs 1, 2 and 3 of this subsection. Nothing contained in any provision of this subsection shall be construed to limit the authority of any college or university in this state from taking administrative action against any student for any violation of any provision of this subsection.

Tulsa does not have an ordinance banning guns on college campuses. Stillwater may have such an ordinance though

21 O.S. § 1289.24

 

[The AmberLynn]

Can we carry in St. Johns hospital In Tulsa. I don't see any gun buster signs.

They're all over the place, but so are the no smoking signs and nobody pays any mind to those.

You must be blind then.

St. Johns insists that they can prohibit you from having a firearm in your vehicle. In direct violation of state law their HR policy still claims that leaving a firearm in your vehicle on their "campus" is grounds for termination. They are not a government entity doing business with the public, nor are they a k-12 or accredited college. Their security chief has also supposedly "confiscated" weapons from people.

St. Johns is extremely anti carry, left my pistol in the car when I went in to see my doc at the physicians building earlier this week, still had my holster on and my edc knife. Doc mentioned st. johns "policies" to me my wife works in the organization as well.

I honored their no firearms sign on the door, but I knew I was going to have to take my shirt off plus my wife works their. Concealed is concealed do what your conscience tells you is right.

I do too. Where does she work?