meanwhile, in an alternate universe:
One in a car wreck, none from smoking.
Yea and making it more available and legal is going to help how exactly???? In case you guys have forgotten, the drug in question is legal in most states at this time.
Same old strawman argument.
I lost a Cousin and a Brother to Drugs ...... Cousin was 17 and Brother was 53 ...... Senseless .....
Agreed.
In almost 40 years of working (yes I started early) I have met many people that took drugs. Most were no better then drunks and usually ended up asking "do you want fries with that?" for a living. Many ended up on welfare and a few ended up in nursing homes. Only two were worth anything while high. One was a stripper and the other was a paper hanger.
If you folks ever do manage to convince enough dummies that legalizing drugs is a good idea, I want enough notice from the government so I can bunker in for a few months because that will be when the SHTF.
Rick, why aren't you calling for prohibition on any thing that can cause bodily harm? Yes, people that do drugs are worthless while working but so are people that drink and some people that are sober.
Outlawing marijuana while legalizing alcohol makes about as much sense as seat belt laws in states with no helmet laws.
It's hypocrisy at it's finest.
Outlawing marijuana while legalizing alcohol makes about as much sense as seat belt laws in states with no helmet laws.
It's hypocrisy at it's finest.
I've determined that this is the response folks give on OSA when they don't know how to deal with the fact that someone just proved them wrong. I think it goes right along with "I don't trust your source, it's probably from the liberal media".
Here's one - if Drugs make you get high, then a fork made Rosanne Bar fat and RickN's keyboard makes him a hypocrite. Seriously man - it's an inanimate object, it doesn't make people do anything.
What is your argument against legalizing drugs other than personal experience with some folks whose lives were affected by drugs (which by the way, I'm not trying to trivialize at all - I knew folks who abused drugs to their own demise and it sucks)? Statistics and economics say something entirely different though when you look at the big picture and not the emotional stories that happened close to you (think Bloomberg saying "more guns equals more crime" - sounds good and he has an emotional story to drive his decision just like all the other anti's).
Here's an honest question - if the people you know whose lives were affected by drugs had no illegal drugs to get hold of, would they have found something else to destroy their lives with (alcohol, abusing a legal substance like huffing paint / making their own meth / self-destructive behavior in general)?
If so, then the responsibility for their hardships or even death was their own fault and not that of drugs.
Outlawing booze has been tried and if they did it again it would not bother me, and I agree about the no helmet laws. The point you guys do not seem to get is outside of pot, drugs are a whole different ball game. Sure there are plenty of things that can kill you. Hell eating a diet beans and cabbage while living in an enclosed space can kill you. (don't laugh it has happened)
As I have said I can see legalizing pot if certain conditions are met, but anything harder is just begging for trouble.
On a related note, can you see the lawyer feeding frenzy if they ever did legalize anything stronger then pot? The wrongful death suits would be flying within weeks.
(Don't click it - it's probably from the liberal media)
http://www.snopes.com/humor/follies/methane.asp
Wow. From a face-eater thread to a legalization thread! I don't really know where to stand on the "harder than weed" drugs, but I think if they just made marijuana a schedule 2 drug where it was legal with a prescription, I don't think the world would collapse, you would have plenty of tax revenue generated for the .gov and you could still enforce DUI laws for it the same as liquor laws. Just my .02. I think there's too much federal money tied up in law enforcement of marijuana so it'll probably never happen.
And the point that you don't seem to get is that you're a would-be petty tyrant who wants to dictate to others how they live their lives. Maybe not in every respect, but that just makes your desire to rule others a matter of degree.
BTW, since you seem to think Prohibition was a good idea, why don't you explain A) how effective it was, and B) what were the side-effects? Here's a topic starter for you: would Al Capone have been such a wealthy and influential figure if booze had been legal?
