New Arrow Rest, New Fletchings, or Both?

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For Tighter Arrow Groups:

  • Refletch with 2 inch vanes

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • Get a fall-away style rest

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Both option 1 and 2

    Votes: 1 50.0%

  • Total voters
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makeithappen

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Ha ha draw length was setup for me when I bought it. It is set to 70lbs, which I don't struggle to draw. I may take it to Oklahoma archery when I get the vanes and see if they can come up with something. You're always welcome to come hang out, AllOut.
 

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Borrowed an arrow my buddy had fletched with 2in vanes and shot it alongside my 4in vanes. Google+ automatically created this slideshow which is pretty cool. The pictures are a mix of 20 and 30 yard groups. What are y'all's thoughts?

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yeah man setup sounds good to me. Like others said make sure you shoot when rested and quit before being tired. Also make sure you anchor at same point and pull straight back when releasing. I don't just pull the release and let fly. When I am ready to shoot I pull the trigger on my release and keep pulling backwards and straight. That way your not pushing the string any way at all that could change arrow flight.

For example I have always shot Hoyt. I just this spring bought a CRX32 I have Trophy Ridge sights on it. and I use a WB arrow rest. Arrows are Gold Tip Ted Nugent carbon arrows. They have 2" HP vanes on them. that's what came on them.
I can do a 3 shot group at 50yds and have the arrows less than 3" apart. Now do I want to take that far of a shot come bow season. Not unless I just can't get the buck in any closer and I don't wanna take the chance on getting him another day. I like to shoot within 25yds. But I know I can shoot farther if needed.

But yeah sounds like practice and that group will tighten up.
 

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Thanks Hagar, I'll be getting the arrows re-fletched this week with 2in blazer vanes. I am trying to focus on form currently as I practice. If you notice in that .gif slideshow, the arrow with 2in vanes, although the arrow itself is an inch longer than mine, it is more consistently in the middle.
 

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Actually you're never supposed to pull the trigger on your release. You should pull the release into your finger using back tension. And not the tip of your finger. The release's trigger should contact your finger on the second pad not the first. Most guys have their release out to far/long. Which keeps you from being able to do this.
The release should always be a "surprise" in which you're just pulling with your back (not your arm) with your finger against the trigger. Once you pull hard enough it'll cause the trigger to push against your finger and Bam, the bow shoots.
Here is a good video showing proper use of release

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVe1-xa1eY&feature=youtube_gdata
 

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Actually you're never supposed to pull the trigger on your release. You should pull the release into your finger using back tension. And not the tip of your finger. The release's trigger should contact your finger on the second pad not the first. Most guys have their release out to far/long. Which keeps you from being able to do this.
The release should always be a "surprise" in which you're just pulling with your back (not your arm) with your finger against the trigger. Once you pull hard enough it'll cause the trigger to push against your finger and Bam, the bow shoots.
Here is a good video showing proper use of release

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVe1-xa1eY&feature=youtube_gdata

very interesting video. I was taught when I started shooting to squeeze the trigger just like your squeezing the trigger on a rifle and to keep pulling straight back and follow through. Such as how a quarterback/basketball player continues shooting/throwing motion after releasing the ball for better accuracy.

I worded that wrong I don't "pull" just a slow easy smooth squeeze. Not saying it's right. I am definitely going to try this other way. I am always up for learning something new. Heck who knows may tighten my group up to 2" or better.
also not sure if its correct or not but since my trigger was so sensitive. I have always kept my finger behind the trigger pushing it forward as I was always nervous of setting the trigger off early or during the drawing process. It is just habit now but still do that to.

thanks for the link.
can't wait for bow season its fast approaching.
 

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Honestly a lot of people are taught that way. I started that way myself.
Some guys are actually really good at punching the trigger, hell Cameron Hanes is a puncher if you ever watch him shoot. Everyone is different and not everyone can do things the same way. But typically good form will do better for most people. I personally cant my bow to the right a little. It's very hard and unnatural for me to level my sight bubble. I shoot better if I just let it cant and not fight it.
I switched to back tension a couple years ago. After learning to draw with my back and not my arms, learning to relax my arms and squeeze my back together to release instead of "squeezing" the trigger like a gun. My shooting didn't really get a lot better, it was actually pretty good to begin with. Is just much easier now to do it well. Not as fatigued and can shoot higher poundage a lot longer.
I just looked on YouTube for a video about BT to see if I could show u what I as talking about. Just happened to find that short one that did a good quick job of explaining it. But seriously, try it and see how u like it. It's tough at first, I had a hard time not pushing on the trigger. But after a while it got easy. I've helped a lot of guys on here and other boards with their shooting, I have yet to see one guy come over that actually shot this way, most punch or at best squeeze the trigger. This is the first correction I make to their form along it keeping a good "T" and bending at the waist instead of dropping their front arm.
 

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Heck!!! If your bow is launching arrow straight, you don't need fletching out to ten yards or better.

Shoot a non fletched arrow and see, if it launches sideways you got a problem
 

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