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This goes here......... extreme language warning if that offends you.

 
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You can do the homework. Your systems are always working. Right? You always have plenty of time. At least that was a comment you made earlier.

It's not that he can't do the work, it's that he won't do any work that doesn't support his liberal agenda. For Ace, there is no exculpatory evidence, all of his evidence is fact and all yours is fantasy. It's just how the liberal mind works and you're not gonna change that. :(

Thanks for that. Just further confirmation that another Obama Advisor is incompetent. It's no wonder why so many incompetent decisions about the Middle East are being made by this administration.

The career professionals who are competent, are being told to "cut it out" and "get in line with the message" by the administration, by altering intelligence reports to paint a rosier picture of "progress" against ISIS. The intel community is in full revolt over the debacle and absolutely nothing being said on the subject by the WH can be trusted at this point.

American trust in the government has dropped to a 60 year low, at less than 20% now. Some people are beginning to wake up from their long slumber and it's not going to be pretty.
 

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Thanks for that. Just further confirmation that another Obama Advisor is incompetent. It's no wonder why so many incompetent decisions about the Middle East are being made by this administration.

Careful. What you perceive as another man's incompetence might be that other man's game plan. If there is a perceivable end, what you see is the latter.

Woody
 

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I'm just going to dump this here (something I wrote on other social media) and unilaterally tone down my rhetoric before I bow out of the incessant bickering.

We will get through this, and we don't need to eat our own in the process. Hopefully we also don't sacrifice our often touted Constitutional underpinnings in the process.

Lots of people posting about "The Refugee Crisis" these days. As seems to be happening more and more lately, I find myself removed from both sides of a polarizing issue full of jingoistic memes and pie-in-the-sky progressive fantasy.

Our President has made immature and over simplified remarks about people being afraid of widows and orphans. That statement misrepresents the demographic of the refugees and completely ignores very real and documented security concerns.

Another moron, a Republican lawmaker from Tennessee, called for the National Guard to round up any and all Syrian refugees in his state. I can't even find words to dismiss the idiocy of that mindset.

There is middle ground. Our nation's basic charter revolves around being a shining city on a hill that will aid those seeking a new life. We can do that without sacrificing our own security and way of life.

We can provide solutions (I think military aged males need to be encouraged/enabled to secure their own homeland), give safe harbor to those fleeing unspeakable horror (that safe harbor doesn't have to be exclusively here), AND provide for our own security at the same time.

This doesn't need to break us. We're bigger than this.

I wish you all a happy and safe Thanksgiving...even you Glocktogo lol.
 

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Many in the ruling elite of our country have been highly influenced by Islam. Contributions from proxies for Islamic governments and friendships and marriages and even a few conversions to Islam have been going on silently for some time.

If you believe that the intent of these Islamic powers is benign, then this process is neutral or even good - our leaders have become more enlightened and connected to be able to work toward peace and progress.

If you believe that the intent of Islam toward the west is harmful, then this process has corrupted and undermined our country. I believe it to be corruption. Ideas and values have consequences - Islam does not respect freedom. Open your eyes to the outrages that are the norm for Islam. I have lived overseas with Hindus with no problem. I have married into an Asian culture and our values are compatible. But fundamentalist Islam is not compatible with the West or any other culture.
 

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Well, you got me there Ace, a quick cite with out review. "Winning"

For the whole Brennen enchilada try here:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printindividualProfile.asp?indid=2577

www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org? What, couldn't find what you were looking for on www.stormfront.org?

Maybe someone should tell Bush one his highest ranking intelligence officers was a secret Muslim, or at least a secret Muslim lover.

What's pathetic is that you have no compunction trolling the backwater of the web in an attempt to impugn a man who's dedicated most of his adult life to serving his county. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 

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I'm just going to dump this here (something I wrote on other social media) and unilaterally tone down my rhetoric before I bow out of the incessant bickering.

We will get through this, and we don't need to eat our own in the process. Hopefully we also don't sacrifice our often touted Constitutional underpinnings in the process.

Lots of people posting about "The Refugee Crisis" these days. As seems to be happening more and more lately, I find myself removed from both sides of a polarizing issue full of jingoistic memes and pie-in-the-sky progressive fantasy.

Our President has made immature and over simplified remarks about people being afraid of widows and orphans. That statement misrepresents the demographic of the refugees and completely ignores very real and documented security concerns.

Another moron, a Republican lawmaker from Tennessee, called for the National Guard to round up any and all Syrian refugees in his state. I can't even find words to dismiss the idiocy of that mindset.

There is middle ground. Our nation's basic charter revolves around being a shining city on a hill that will aid those seeking a new life. We can do that without sacrificing our own security and way of life.

We can provide solutions (I think military aged males need to be encouraged/enabled to secure their own homeland), give safe harbor to those fleeing unspeakable horror (that safe harbor doesn't have to be exclusively here), AND provide for our own security at the same time.

This doesn't need to break us. We're bigger than this. I wish you all a happy and safe Thanksgiving...even you Glocktogo lol.

There's a lot to agree with there SMS. Doubling down on the Patriot Act stupidity is absolutely wrong and I'm incredibly disappointed in FBI Director Comey's recent rantings.

I'm all for taking in refugees that truly want to embrace the American way of life and help make that shining city on the hill a little brighter. Sadly, I have absolutely no faith that our government will be at all discerning in the process.

I'm also deeply depressed about GOP presidential candidates using this crisis as an opportunity to fear monger votes. There is a middle ground between Sen. Graham's call for all out war and Obama's "They're a bunch of killers with good social media," rhetoric, and it's certainly not McCain's "let's arm the FSA moderates". That would've resulted in even more arms in ISIS hands that we've already given them.

Anyway, I wish you the best for the holidays and we still agree on more than we disagree on. :)
 

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I'm all for taking in refugees that truly want to embrace the American way of life and help make that shining city on the hill a little brighter. Sadly, I have absolutely no faith that our government will be at all discerning in the process.

^^^ Ditto.

I would add though that it seems to be the current politically correct idea that the United States was originally setup to let the entire world just come in as they wish. This is not anywhere close to reality. We've always had controls and they seem to be thought of as "evil insert whatever phobic term you wish" these days. They should be vetted and qualified just as thoroughly as they would have been 50 years ago and prior.

As to the highlighted part this is all part of a plan to import a new voter base. Nothing more, and they aren't too many years from succeeding in their implementation of that plan.
 

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