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Oh I've got plenty of natural history too if the physics is too much.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/debunking-the-dinosaurs-of-kachina-bridge-96018102/

Kinda pointless don't you think?

In the end I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine. Y'all can go on denouncing science (except apparently the science that applies to your daily life) and I'll go on without believing your version of religion.

Oh, I'm not really trying to change your mind. I'm just trying to see if you can question the so-called science on occasion. Incidentally, the Kachina Bridge dinosaur isn't the only "artifact" that seems to illustrate dinosaurs that were created by humans, even though the dinosaurs have supposedly been extinct since about 65 million+ years ago and man is supposedly a much younger species, and thus unable to have any idea of what a dinosaur was supposed to appear.
 

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It's just a matter of the recording of events over the eons. Eh - Rather the digging up of history and/or the passage of events as told from generation to generation. You know, like what came first - the chicken or the egg? Or what came first, the Egyptians or the Great Flood? I think you can call me a "Floodist".

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LOL did you ready my post? What I states was, quite plainly, that climate changes. Others in the thread even comments to the same sentiment. I didn't argue particularly why it's changing. But one observed phenomena of this is rising seas. Even the article you link doesn't dispute the sea level rise; rather it argues that the islands can survive it:






Exactly, thank you. The debate is if we have any impact on the changes that empirically are being observed.

And it cannot be empirically prove we do.
The lies and deception by the climate idiots is impressive and deceptive.
You have heard of the climate change idiots getting their a$$es handed to them in a federal Court last month by a liberal judge?
They presented false data and the judge called them out on it.
Amazing.
 

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You know --- It might not have a thing to do with the oceans rising. Maybe the land is twisting, and wrinkling, and shuffling about, and sinking. Maybe a gigantic quake caused a 200 foot tsunami to wash over Oklahoma all those years ago and deposited all those fossils.

Makes about as much sense as any other guessing out there does! :sunbath:

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It’s proven that the central part of the US was under water.
Paleontology in Oklahoma refers to paleontological research occurring within or conducted by people from the U.S. state of Oklahoma. Oklahoma has a rich fossil record spanning all three eras of the Phanerozoic Eon.[1] Oklahoma is the best source of Pennsylvanian fossils in the United States due to having an exceptionally complete geologic record of the epoch.[2] From the Cambrian to the Devonian, all of Oklahoma was covered by a sea that would come to be home to creatures like brachiopods, bryozoans, graptolites and trilobites. During the Carboniferous, an expanse of coastal deltaic swamps formed in areas of the state where early tetrapods would leave behind footprints that would later fossilize. The sea withdrew altogether during the Permian period.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleontology_in_Oklahoma
 

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It’s proven that the central part of the US was under water.
Paleontology in Oklahoma refers to paleontological research occurring within or conducted by people from the U.S. state of Oklahoma. Oklahoma has a rich fossil record spanning all three eras of the Phanerozoic Eon.[1] Oklahoma is the best source of Pennsylvanian fossils in the United States due to having an exceptionally complete geologic record of the epoch.[2] From the Cambrian to the Devonian, all of Oklahoma was covered by a sea that would come to be home to creatures like brachiopods, bryozoans, graptolites and trilobites. During the Carboniferous, an expanse of coastal deltaic swamps formed in areas of the state where early tetrapods would leave behind footprints that would later fossilize. The sea withdrew altogether during the Permian period.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleontology_in_Oklahoma

That's all facts. I was absurdly guessing. :D

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That's all facts. I was absurdly guessing. :D

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Ah so thinking like a Liberal.. gotcha.

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Holy Crap! Is it true? The oceans are rising and people are being forced to move inland? Have I been wrong as a skeptic for this long?

"This used to be a forest of oak and cypress trees. In March, Louisiana state officials announced that everyone living on Isle de Jean Charles will have to leave. Where there were 22,000 acres in 1955 there are only 320 acres today. They are one hurricane away from obliteration. The evacuation is a test-run for countless coastal communities in Louisiana, who must all move as the seas take over the land. ISLE DE JEAN CHARLES, Louisiana - America comes to an end here."

Well, there seems to be a little discrepancy in that click bait by the Business Insider.
If you delve deeper into the story and actually read it,
"The principal problem traces back to the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 when the corps of engineers responded by building giant levees to constrain the river. The result was stopping the flow of sediment into its delta, which once gave the state's barrier islands the material to rebuild as fast as they eroded."

So, the liberal media is once again compliant in propagating the bullshat of climate change.
The Islands have been doomed since man intervened in 1927, one year before my dad was born.
Those barrier islands would still be here and much bigger possibly if man had not intervened.

http://www.businessinsider.com/isle-de-jean-charles-climate-change-refugees-2018-4

The oceans have risen over 30 feet in the last 7,000 years and only inches since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Climate Change is a reality, but it is a Natural Phenomenon; it is not primarily the result of man’s activities which pale in significance when compared to the natural processes in play.


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Okay as to rising sea levels. Is there any other possibility than melting ice? ]
Speaking of water displacement, perhaps we should consider the number of ships we allow on the planet?
As we all know, every addition of an ice cube to a glass of tea raises the level.
Here, ladies and gentlemen, I offer true science vs conjecture and theory.
Carry on with your theories. I have solved the issue. Ships are the problem.
 

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