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I'm not a big AR freak and don't really shoot them much since I have other toys that see more range time. But I do have a LE6920. With the frequency I fire it, it should last well into 2356.
 

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Absolutely, that has been long established.



I have no doubt that they have. See below.




The cult following of the Colt 6920 proves that it does.



It's all relative to your intended use. If you are like most people and shoot 400 rounds a year, your budget "big box store AR" or budget built franken gun will serve you just fine. If you shoot 1000 rounds a month like some of my friends do or if you are a serious "trainer" and take carbine classes shooting 2K rounds in a weekend several times a year, then that "budget AR" will likely go down at some point. It might not, but if you are using it that hard it's only a matter of time until you find out just exactly what it will do.
Thanks for your respone. I have to say I've been thinking about this for the last couple of days and can say this, I fit into the category of the casual shooter, but if I ever NEED my ar (or any weapon for that matter), I want it to fire every time without a hiccup. Looks like my ar budget just grew a lil larger. Thanks again.
 

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Absolutely, that has been long established.

I have no doubt that they have. See below.

The cult following of the Colt 6920 proves that it does.

It's all relative to your intended use. If you are like most people and shoot 400 rounds a year, your budget "big box store AR" or budget built franken gun will serve you just fine. If you shoot 1000 rounds a month like some of my friends do or if you are a serious "trainer" and take carbine classes shooting 2K rounds in a weekend several times a year, then that "budget AR" will likely go down at some point. It might not, but if you are using it that hard it's only a matter of time until you find out just exactly what it will do.

Just to be fair. I have several Ar15s with multiple manufacturers(colt, bushmaster, mega, delton, double star, spikes, stag). The one I shot the most was a Bushmaster that I bought back in 1999. It has over 25k rounds through it. It still shoots every time and is completely stock minus the furniture. I shot 5000 rounds without properly cleaning it. Just using gun scrubber, rem oil, and a bore snake twice. It never failed.

The gun I hate the most is the le6920. Colt Defense is a peice of **** when it comes to 2nd amendment.

If I want ultimate reliability I am going with my Ak built by the commies.
 

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Just to be fair. I have several Ar15s with multiple manufacturers(colt, bushmaster, mega, delton, double star, spikes, stag). The one I shot the most was a Bushmaster that I bought back in 1999. It has over 25k rounds through it. It still shoots every time and is completely stock minus the furniture. I shot 5000 rounds without properly cleaning it. Just using gun scrubber, rem oil, and a bore snake twice. It never failed.

The gun I hate the most is the le6920. Colt Defense is a peice of **** when it comes to 2nd amendment.

If I want ultimate reliability I am going with my Ak built by the commies.

Curious about this. What did they do?
 

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Have these extra processes proven beneficial? Have the cheaper alternatives failed because of not having these features and processes done to them? I don't mind spending money where it brings value to any product I'm purchasing. Do these "name brand" parts add resale value to the ar? Add reliability?

That would be four definate yeses. Most people won't really notice the reliability but it's there.

I'm holding out for a delton though.

Ell Oh Ell

Adding the word "Fact" to the end of drivel with no point doesn't make a single person on this board take you more seriously.

Fact...
 

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Adding the word "Fact" to the end of drivel with no point doesn't make a single person on this board take you more seriously.

The OP posted a deal - you chose to attempt to derail this thread and make statements like "They're all the same" and "just as good" so the burden of proof is on you to back up what you're saying - we weren't even getting into that.

You are basically flinging poo without wanting to converse, and it doesn't seem to matter that you are wrong, that you have no evidence to support what you're saying, or that there is a mountain of data out there detailing the opposite of what you're saying. That is trolling.

I typically avoid posting anything to show the differences in ARs because of the obvious butt-hurt that comes with it, but ShadowRider hit the nail on the head.

Keep in mind that nobody has said your brand of AR is inferior or that one particular brand is "Better" - you said "same" and "just as good". Things like manufacturing processes being controlled in a smaller shop and using more expensive processes and materials make a product more expensive - that is a fact. "Better" or "Just as good" are subjective but "the same" is stating a fact and it's 100% incorrect.

So justifying the price isn't saying "mine is better than yours" and there's no reason to jump into threads where nobody has asked your opinion to tell us why we're all fools for paying higher prices for a quality product with a proven track record.

Feel free to post a single thing about how all ARs are the same and prove those who know differently wrong.

I was going to leave this alone, but here goes anyway. The first question about quality came from your dear brother Shadow Rider. I merely pointed out that there are cheaper alternatives out there initially. He's the one that stated that BCMs are not DPMS or Delton. So you are wrong on the pint of me being the only one bringing up quality. I brought up price, quality was ASSumed by you two.

About military contracts......it goes to the lowest bidder. The gun companies decide whether they want the contract or not, not the individual soldier Peace Maker.

As far as price determining quality, LWRC is expensive and used by SF teams. This is established.
My father works for LWRC and they have so many quality control issues that it isn't funny. The sights will literally rattle themselves apart with repeated firing. They've sent thousands back because of this. Barrel issues in many cases keep the guns from even shipping out.

Anyway, price point is that people who continue to purchase these products at inflated prices are helping to keep the market high. Whatever, I heard enough about ARs to last me a life time. They are overrated underpowered rifles at best. I don't recall any bolt gun builders having to go through all of this crap to ensure a quality firearm. Parts fit and they fire, simple enough.

Maybe the legislature should push for 10 round mags and minimum caliber requirements for hunting since apparently everyone in Oklahoma buying these up is preparing for war or is some kind of "undercover operator".

On that note, I'm done with this board. If I wanted regurgitated crap spewed about how one is better than another, I'd go to Arfcom.
 

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