I had a guy tell me that he could build a load that will maintain super sonic speeds at 1000 yards that will group less than an inch and only have 9inches of drop. lol lol lol... His miracle load; 50gr varget behind a 150gr sst. 48gr of varget is compressed and runs 58,300 for pressure. I smiled, shook my head, and said good luck.. Oh, the best part... His gun is a 24" ruger. Hope he dont hurt anbody or himself..