Working up some loads with Hogden LIL Gun Hornady 158gr LSWCHP 13 through 16 grain LIL gun CCI SPM primer mixed brass. 15 grains of powder was the most accurate so I will work up and down from there to fine tune. Had zero pressure signs at 16 grain but I am unwilling to push it further as I do not have a chronograph and 15 grains was better accuracy. Also zero leading signs with these soft bullets which may mean nothing, 24 bullets may not tell that story fully. Having said that I would not be afraid to run a couple cylinders in a SD situation. Also shot a box of 38 special HBWC in the pistol to practice on the DA trigger. My DA trigger work is getting way better !