DOJ Reaches Settlement On Publication of Files About 3D Printed Firearms

[Shadowrider]

What is official NRA position on 3d printed guns?

3d printers are improving rapidly and they even 3d metal printers now.
If you can print your own gun you might not buy it from a manufacturer.

So?

The Golden Gun

 

[ignerntbend]

So?

The Golden Gun

So it could hurt manufacturers...

 

[okmedic]

I don’t see that occurring for quite some time. Though the technology regarding 3D printers and desktop 5 axis cnc machines growing a pretty fast rate will give the hobbyists a better end product. And it’s not like the 80% lower market is being talked about at all.
I’m really waiting for the next false flag “school shooting” to be done with an AR that “for some reason has no serial number”. Then the media will start in on that part of the gun market. I’m having a hard time understanding why the media hasn’t caught on to it yet.


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[inactive]

CBS was running a story on how anyone can just print their own AR15 rifle just this morning. Last I checked you can't print molten alloyed aluminum or chrome moly steel. But I guess you really can, it was on the news...

I mean you can though. Remember the printed polymer receiver is the firearm (though not necessarily rifle). The aluminum and steel parts are simply accessories.

So "anyone" can go out and download and "print" off the receiver and then build their finished rifle or pistol. Which, is as it should be.

 

[JD8]

I dunno boys, I'd hate for these things to start churning out "Glock 7s." Then we'd really be in trouble.

 

[NikatKimber]

I mean you can though. Remember the printed polymer receiver is the firearm (though not necessarily rifle). The aluminum and steel parts are simply accessories.

So "anyone" can go out and download and "print" off the receiver and then build their finished rifle or pistol. Which, is as it should be.

The implication in some of the articles I read were that you could print the whole thing. Which is false.

If you want, you can build one out of wood:
http://www.weaponeer.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8035&PN=1&TPN=1

Sheet metal:
https://www.guns.com/2012/12/17/sheet-metal-ar-15-lower-set/

Weld one together from a pre-cut sheet kit:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/06/02/weldable-ar15-flat-spot/

Search "sheet metal AR15 receiver" and you'll find lots of patterns/guides/drawings etc to make an AR15 lower.

And that's if I want to maintain "full" functionality of the AR.

If I just needed a way of taking a couple shots so I could "get" a fully functional gun, then things like the WW2 Liberator can be made easy enough.

The real point though, is that with 300+ MILLION firearms in private hands, mills and lathes and CAD drawings available, there is no "disarming".

That's why there is such hand-wringing by the anti-gunners (population controllers and their useful idiots). For anything resembling an unarmed populace, they have to turn the entire population that doesn't own guns against those who do. And convince as many FUDDs as possible.

 

[Hobbes]

This from last year.
Rapid progress on metal printing.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/10/3d-printing-doubles-strength-stainless-steel

I hope prices come down like they have with the plastic composite printers.
Right now they start at about 5K.
The metal printers use a laser scintillation process to melt tiny beads of metal.

 

[okmedic]

The implication in some of the articles I read were that you could print the whole thing. Which is false.

If you want, you can build one out of wood:
http://www.weaponeer.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8035&PN=1&TPN=1

Sheet metal:
https://www.guns.com/2012/12/17/sheet-metal-ar-15-lower-set/

Weld one together from a pre-cut sheet kit:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/06/02/weldable-ar15-flat-spot/

Search "sheet metal AR15 receiver" and you'll find lots of patterns/guides/drawings etc to make an AR15 lower.

And that's if I want to maintain "full" functionality of the AR.

If I just needed a way of taking a couple shots so I could "get" a fully functional gun, then things like the WW2 Liberator can be made easy enough.

The real point though, is that with 300+ MILLION firearms in private hands, mills and lathes and CAD drawings available, there is no "disarming".

That's why there is such hand-wringing by the anti-gunners (population controllers and their useful idiots). For anything resembling an unarmed populace, they have to turn the entire population that doesn't own guns against those who do. And convince as many FUDDs as possible.

I do agree on all your points, especially about them not disarming the public but I think it’s more about the principal chipping away at freedoms.

Cody Wilson states it far better than I can in just about any of the videos you’ll see on YouTube.


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[NikatKimber]

I do agree on all your points, especially about them not disarming the public but I think it’s more about the principal chipping away at freedoms.

Cody Wilson states it far better than I can in just about any of the videos you’ll see on YouTube.


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I think we're saying the same thing. They can't attack it straight on, so they have to make it an emotional game to get the majority to scream "take the xyz guns, that's all!" Rinse and Repeat

 

[Shadowrider]

This from last year.
Rapid progress on metal printing.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/10/3d-printing-doubles-strength-stainless-steel

I hope prices come down like they have with the plastic composite printers.
Right now they start at about 5K.
The metal printers use a laser scintillation process to melt tiny beads of metal.

Hobbes, that is in no way feasible for anyone's garage. Not even close.

Even if it were, they are stoking fear in the uneducated masses for political gain. I'm right now listening to a pretty conservative and pretty pro-gun guy on the radio from the DFW area and he's even ignorant on this and he's "not comfortable" with having "untraceable" guns in the populous. He has a gun range owner on that's pointed out (correctly) that you've ALWAYS been able to build your own gun. It's perfectly legal and always has been. Just don't plan on selling, gifting it, crossing state lines or getting caught with it if you are a felon.

Again it's about politics, pure and simple.