Average
Lots of people like the quality and reliability, but not the price. Magazines and parts are expensive and hard to find. Customer service and support has the reputation of being very bad.
good pistols, over priced,lousy triggers, wont do anything a m&p or glock wont do for $400 less and they have nice triggers
Unless you count the whole hammer, double/single action, decocker and beauty then yea, it's the same.
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