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I don't have iron sights on my AR, and thats another huge expense that I cannot take on right now that is why I went with the cheapo scope for now. For the iron sights I have to have a front sight that works on a gas block and the only one I found that does that is the Troy which for a Troy set we all know its not cheap. I very much appreciate your input guys, I simply put this up to let others like myself who cannot afford to spend a ton of money on optics right now know that there was a cheap scope that was at least a bit better then the ones you get at Wally World.

not to talk smack, but CTD has a great many products on their site that are below Wal-Mart quality. Barska is one of those brands. Check out Primary Optics' stuff, its easily a few steps above Barska. I would seriously return that optic to CTD and use the money towards something even a little better. Trust me, I've been there - owned plenty of Barska, CenterPoint, and NCstar optics. None of them were worth it.
 

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I'm sure you feel like everyone's piling on you for bringing up what looks like a decent deal on a scope, but I do have to agree with the others here. I find it interesting you'd have blown your entire fund on a Giessele trigger when you don't have any iron sights on your AR. It's certainly your decision, but I'd have put the money toward a good set of iron sights first and lived with the stock trigger until I could afford either the Giessele or a mid-level scope. I do hope your scope holds up, though!
 

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Exactly. A quality optic would have done far more for your accuarcy than a slick trigger.

A trigger is definitely going to help with accuracy. Along with a quality barrel. These 2 things are the most important as far as rifle accuracy goes. However, a quality scope is definitely going to help with shooter accuracy. I'm going to have to agree that a higher quality scope would be a "must have" on a precision rifle. Coupled with a nice trigger and a good barrel. Going with quality parts in these 3 areas, is going to make a good shooter great...
 

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Again guys this was a cheap scope that gives me the ability to get out and shoot, I also have a red dot that I used this past weekend but felt the need to be able to see a bit farther. I didn't say I was not going to get a quality scope later on, in fact I am contemplating getting a Vortex scope later on once I have set some money aside.

My intention was not to have everyone tell me how crappy the scope was nor was it for people to tell me that I should have put the money into a scope rather than an optic. I am not new to shooting I have been around it all my life and I know the difference between quality and cheap (hence why I called the scope cheap in the first place). I work full time and support my family while paying off our debts that accrued while I was unable to get a job a few years back, I love to get out and shoot and I had built an AR back in California and wanted to build another one here that did not have all of the crappy CA safety BS. I traded and sold ammo, guns and gun parts to get to the point that I could afford the build and when all was done I only had enough for a cheap scope for now.

Again I appreciate everyones input but this thread completely ran away from the point that I was originally trying to make.
 

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A trigger is definitely going to help with accuracy.

How is trigger going to help with "accuracy"?

I've been shooting Milsurp competitively for the last 4 years, and the only difference I can tell between Mosin's 6lb pull and timney 6oz pull is the time it takes to squeeze it - which leads to more fatigue in the long run. Yeah, gritty and notchy sears are gross - but it shouldn't affect the technique or accuracy.
 

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How is trigger going to help with "accuracy"?

I've been shooting Milsurp competitively for the last 4 years, and the only difference I can tell between Mosin's 6lb pull and timney 6oz pull is the time it takes to squeeze it - which leads to more fatigue in the long run. Yeah, gritty and notchy sears are gross - but it shouldn't affect the technique or accuracy.

A good trigger is definitely a big piece in the puzzle. It is the part you interact with the most on a firearm. If it's too heavy or sloppy, then you will have to compensate for this, taking focus away from the objective of making a well placed shot.
 

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