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Discussion in 'NFA & Class III Discussion' started by juicy, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. juicy

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    Were does it state that you have to engrave your firearm.

    Thanks for the help me and a friend are fighting over this.
     
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    If YOU or YOUR TRUST are filing a Form 1 (Application to Make and Register a Firearm) to make an SBR, SBS, etc... then YOU or YOUR TRUST are the manufacturer of the NFA Firearm and the manufacturers info must be placed on the firearm. Here is an excerpt from the NFA Handbook:

    7.4.2 Additional information. Certain additional information must also be conspicuously placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel of the firearm by engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), that is, they must be placed in such a manner that they are wholly unobstructed from plain view. For firearms manufactured on or after January 30, 2002, this information must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch.

    The additional information includes:
    (1) The model, if such designation has been made;
    (2) The caliber or gauge;
    (3) The manufacturer’s name (or recognized abbreviation); and
    (4) The city and State (or recognized abbreviation) where the manufacturer maintains its place of business.


    7.4.3 Measuring the depth of markings. The depth of all markings is measured from the flat surface of the metal and not the peaks or ridges. The height of serial numbers is measured as the distance between the latitudinal ends of the character impression bottoms (bases).

    Source: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/nfa_handbook/chapter7.pdf
     
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    I am by no means an athority when it comes to this, however i do own a few SBRs. Ive been dying for the need to arise to discuss this. I have a letter from the ATF, i find this very interesting seeing that every i mean every says that you have to engrave the lower. Now i not saying you dont have to, dont get me wrong. This is just a point of intrest. Sorry about the crappy picture youll have to save it then blow it up to read it.
     

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    Way too small to read....

    I'll host it if you have a larger copy you can email me.
     
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    Can't read your letter, but I never said you had to engrave the lower. Below is another section of the NFA Handbook telling how to fill out a Form 1 that states "identification of the maker must be engraved on the barrel or frame or receiver".


    6.2.1 Description of firearm.
    If an existing firearm or firearm receiver is being used, the name and location of the original manufacturer of the weapon should be entered in Block 4(a). If the applicant is making a completely new firearm, the applicant’s name and location should be entered in Block 4(a). The type of firearm being made, i.e., short barrel rifle, short barrel shotgun, any other weapon, silencer or destructive device, is to be entered in Block 4(b). The caliber or gauge of the firearm is to be entered in Block 4(c). If a model designation has been assigned to the firearm, that designation is to be placed in Block 4(d). If the weapon has no model designation, enter “none” in Block 4(d). The length of the barrel is to be entered, in inches, in Block 4(e) and the overall length of the firearm is to be entered, in inches, in Block 4(f).

    All NFA firearms must be identified by a serial number and other specified markings. If an existing firearm is being used in the making of the NFA weapon, and that firearm is serialized, the existing serial number should be used (unless it duplicates a serial number already used by the maker on Form 1) and entered in Block 4(g). If the weapon is of new manufacture, the applicant must assign a unique serial number and enter it in Block 4(g). For example, a unique serial number could be composed of at least 4 digits preceded by the initials of the maker. NOTE: alpha characters, e.g., a name, will not be accepted as a serial number. If a name is to be used, there must be at least one numeric character in addition to the alpha characters. The serial number must be engraved or stamped on the receiver of the firearm and the caliber, model, and identification of the maker must be engraved on the barrel or frame or receiver of the weapon. The marking and identification requirements for a maker are the same as for a manufacturer. Refer to section 7.4 for a detailed discussion of the requirements.
     
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    No i'm not cliaming you did, were cool.
     
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    No offense taken. :bighug::kiss:
     
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    Welcome to the world of NFA where contradictions abound.
     
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    clear as mud
     

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