West Norman shooting yesterday; shooter was CLEET instructor

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Damn! Didja say, "Well, OK, I'm sure sorry if I made you mad but now we have a problem. You just escalated the use of force I'm allowed to use against you to make the arrest and be assured, you are going to be arrested. Seeing that you are immune to 50,000 volts, I am now in fear of my life so if you don't voluntarily allow me to cuff you, I'm gonna have to shoot you."

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Too much talk. When the voiltage did not faze him shoot him, some place that will stop him.
 

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One thing I have missed, what was the person doing the shootings mental state when he shot the other gentleman. Once you have to shoot someone, especially for the first time you will react in ways you did not expect. Even the best trained, it is a experience that will change you for ever. some do not remember exactly what happend. May the lord watch over all involved.
 
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The other thing I'll say about OC is, if it is not properly deployed (and before you say anything I don't care that you say you were trained in its use) accidents can happen and if the wind catches OC, which happens a lot, and blows it back at the person who sprayed it, it ain't good.
I can attest to this. Went to spray a guy in the face and got half or more of it right in mine.
 

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One thing I have missed, what was the person doing the shootings mental state when he shot the other gentleman. Once you have to shot someone, especially for the first time you will react in ways you did not expect. Even the best trained, it is a experience that will change you for ever. some do not remember exactly what append. May the lord watch over all involved.
Kinda late for at least one involved.
 

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Lol I made an inflammatory statement to a guy who endorses murder? How could I be so reckless??🤦‍♂️
You can’t make this stuff up.
Maybe "inflammatory" was a poor choice of words.

You described shooting a thug that was "handcuffed", when the thug in question was not handcuffed.(yes, I know you were simply creating a strawman, but perhaps sticking to facts might be helpful) I'm not sure what you call that where you live, I thought "inflammatory" was being generous.
 

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It was an analogy, not a strawman. Just illustrating that an unconscious or secured handcuffed thug is not a threat & therefore shooting him is murder. If you don’t like the handcuff analogy pick another theoretical scenario where a thug is incapacitated.
I don’t endorse murder, unlike others on here.

The fact that endorsing murder is not shocking to more people on this site is remarkable, but seems to be business as usual I guess.
 
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It was an analogy, not a strawman. Just illustrating that an unconscious or handcuffed thug is not a threat & therefore shooting him is murder. If you don’t like the handcuff analogy pick another theoretical scenario where a thug is incapacitated.
I don’t endorse murder, unlike others on here.


Lets say you're being mugged by some asswipe with a knife or gun, and you somehow get the upper hand and beat the guy unconscious. As he's laying there on the sidewalk unconscious and bleeding, you walk over to your parked car, grab your pistola and walk back over to the bad guy and then send a 124 grn projectile thru the asswipe's forehead. How do you think the law is going to see that?

My guess is you're going to have an experience very similar to Jerome's. The good news is you're going to get 3 nutritious meals a day and have a place to sleep for the rest of your life.
 

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