Oregon Militia take over federal building

[dennishoddy]

Putting the Branch Dividians in the same boat as the folks in Oregon is stupid.

I'll bet you naysayers would have worn the British red in the Revolution.

I'm not on the road, but I do applaud folks that go to extremes for their cause.

Our 1st and 2nd rights have been eroded by people that have taken the extreme route, and we have stupidly compromised.

Sometimes it takes people on the other side of the coin to go a little radical to make their point.

The Bundy's were stepped on in the first meeting with the BLM, and the BLM got their ass handed to them by folks that took over the high ground during the confrontation forcing them to back off. I guess their "tactical leaders" thought the average gun owner was stupid and didn't understand how they could just roll onto the scene with some guns and intimidate the dummy's. LOL, their mistake.

I don't have any further opinion of what happened in this case as I haven't looked at the situation yet. Need to go online and see what information is out there regarding the fire. (130 acres in that area? I burn three times that much every spring, and the Corps of engineers burn thousands on COE lands every year to suppress cedars and promote wildlife friendly regrowth).

 

[Jestik]

I thought the whole Bundy thing was a stupid fiasco and I think that this probably smells the same. I think Clive Bundy was an idiot, and I am willing to bet his sons don't fall too far from the tree.

We've got it really good America.

Don't hasten the day.

 

[Fish on]

Yeah, him and all the other OSA Online Operators. How many times has someone posted "this country is ripe for revolution", petted their dog, drank a beer, said hi to the wife as she comes back from shopping for **** they don't need, fiddled with the thermostat, scratched their balls, and fallen asleep to the fantasy that when "the time is right...I'll step up to the plate". Ridiculous.

Best of luck to these douchebags. Branch Dividians held out for quite a while, but that was in the name of religion, not talk radio and fox news fame.

They'll back down and call it a victory because "they called attention to their cause" and "helped wake America up".

And some sit on their asses and type some long useless diatribes on web sites and do nothing. Pot calling the Kettle black?

 

[Shadowrider]

Would you mind posting a link to what you read regarding this? What was the source?

It was click bait from Facebook. GMThunder's link is far more indepth. Basically what I read was the same with some supposed witness who claimed that they shot and killed 7 deer and wounded several more. Then they supposedly set the fire to cover the poaching up. Sounds just like something a federal prosecutor whose never hunted or even touched a gun would dream up. I can actually see that happening.


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[JD8]

Putting the Branch Dividians in the same boat as the folks in Oregon is stupid.

I'll bet you naysayers would have worn the British red in the Revolution.

I'm not on the road, but I do applaud folks that go to extremes for their cause.

Our 1st and 2nd rights have been eroded by people that have taken the extreme route, and we have stupidly compromised.

Sometimes it takes people on the other side of the coin to go a little radical to make their point.

The Bundy's were stepped on in the first meeting with the BLM, and the BLM got their ass handed to them by folks that took over the high ground during the confrontation forcing them to back off.

I don't have any further opinion of what happened in this case as I haven't looked at the situation yet. Need to go online and see what information is out there regarding the fire. (130 acres in that area? I burn three times that much every spring, and the Corps of engineers burn thousands on COE lands every year to suppress cedars and promote wildlife friendly regrowth).

In the link I posted.... there is a LOT of information as to what happened leading up to this.

 

[dennishoddy]

http://theconservativetreehouse.com...uge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/

Great link. The BLM is doing every thing they can to steam roll these folks.

If some of the red coats in this thread would do some research, they would find the BLM has done the same to many individuals with ranches that have been in family's for generations.

 

[dennishoddy]

In the link I posted.... there is a LOT of information as to what happened leading up to this.

I read it all. Scanned it pretty quick. Is there something I missed about abuse by the BLM?

The "witness" that claimed they shot 7 deer and wounded more is so full of **** its unbelievable.

I've shot over 200 deer, and I can assure you they won't mill around while more are shot even if using a suppressor. The legal team they used are idiots.

Anybody that says different is a whacko idiot when it comes to hunting. Even if they burnt it, the DNA would still be there and all wildlife agencies in the US have access to DNA identification from blood left on the scene, and it doesn't get eliminated by a grass fire.

The stupid in this thread is incredible.

Y'all need to look up what the founders of this country had to put up with their "radical" ideas. I think its called the Constitution. Most of the red coats in the country didn't agree with them.

Most suffered for their "radical thoughts", and some lost their lives. Again, I applaud these folks for fighting against the government knowing they might go to jail for it or worse. Read about it here.

http://www.constitutionfacts.com/us-constitution-amendments/about-the-signers/

 

[Rooster1971]

The Lunatic Fringe is on the march. Wonder what they'll call themselves? Remember the Waco Whackos? Who became the Barbecued Bozos of the Brazos? Those idiots in Oregon need a catchy name. Any suggestions?

Really classy. Women and children died needlessly in that fiasco.

 

[Rooster1971]

Poontang king, barbecued bozos of the Brazos, I cannot stop laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks

Yeah, that was really funny. If I remember right you were a school administrator. Now that's a joke.

 

[Frederick]

If you want to protest, fine. But this isn't the first time these nutcases tried to tally up with the feds, the last time they threatened to shoot some cops over grazing rights. Of course the cops decided to leave it alone for 'safety reasons'.

some on the left are saying it's 'treason', but i don't buy that at all. Not every opposition to the federal government is treason, and not every physical opposition to federal control is necessarily treason either. Treason only exists in very specific circumstances. Otherwise the Battle of Athens, Tennessee would have been 'treason'.

That being said, i'm not a fan of Federal power or the government use of force. What they're fighting against is the 'unconstitutional ownership' of western lands by the feds to my understanding. A fair point, the feds do own too much land out west. But bringing guns to your occupation and threatening to shoot any law enforcement officer that tries to enforce the law is insane.

Sooner or later the feds or the State will have enough of these lunatics, and there is going to be a very lopsided slaughter where dozens will die and the rest will be injured or captured and spend a very, very long time in prison. That is, if they don't manage to kill a cop and spend the rest of their lives in prison(or get the death penalty). There are ways to protest the government without using guns or threatening to shoot people.

They are trying to blackmail the government, and if Waco and other incidents show, the U.S. government will use force when necessary. 150 guys might be a bloodbath waiting to happen, but the State and Federal government have more than enough resources to wipe them out in less than 5 minutes if they so chose.