The turnpike system and the money grabbers In the state

[SoonerP226]

Valid point.
Although, Bonds are supposed to be paid-off and dissolve after time.

Somehow, the turnpike never seems to be able to 'pay-off' their debt, but somehow they proposes new roads (more debt), and the 'investors' continue to take revenue.

I agree Bonds, in general, are necessary for state financial functions. I think the Turnpike abuses this.

My guess is that the bonds are paid off, but they're replaced with new bonds to fund new projects. If they're doing something shady, I'd think that an audit would uncover that, and there should be regular audits to catch that.

 

[TerryMiller]

I'm sure glad that there are a number of OSA members that refuse to use the turnpikes...

...that's a few less other vehicles on them to get in my way.

Plus, it also probably also means that there aren't hot-headed gun-toting drivers all over the road.

 

[swampratt]

I have a pikepass on a few of my cars even the 57 Chevy.
I go to Missouri and take the fast way.

No cell phone though. I can see owning one if it is used for your job but I feel if your job requires you to have one they should pay for it.

F cell phones a very not needed thing for the majority of people in my mind.
Just like many do not like the Toll roads.

 

[SoonerP226]

...that's a few less other vehicles on them to get in my way.

Oh, don't worry. There are plenty of 18 wheelers with left-seat passengers to take up the slack.

 

[Pstmstr]

I'm sure glad that there are a number of OSA members that refuse to use the turnpikes...

...that's a few less other vehicles on them to get in my way.

Plus, it also probably also means that there aren't hot-headed gun-toting drivers all over the road.

Yep except I bet some of them that posted that have already traveled on one.

 

[turkeyrun]

I read that the tolls in PA are $118.80 to cross the state. I guess that's what you get when voting for fetterman and marxism ?

$4.50 from Red River to OKC

 

[turkeyrun]

You are obviously looking for an argument. To be the devil's advocate, how do you know those bondholders are OOS investors?

Investors also own city bonds, do they own the cities too? So they "reap the profits" too from the cities?

My school district just sold bonds to build new schools. Those are primarily bought by out of state investment companies. How is that different?

Many of the bonds are bought by retirement funds; teachers, State, count, city employees and others.

 

[Two Gun Warrior]

It's a natural human condition.

I thinks it is learned on the forums.

 

[SoonerP226]

It's a natural human condition.

Yep.

SAID HANRAHAN by John O'Brien​

"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
In accents most forlorn,
Outside the church, ere Mass began,
One frosty Sunday morn.


The congregation stood about,
Coat-collars to the ears,
And talked of stock, and crops, and drought,
As it had done for years.


"It's looking crook," said Daniel Croke;
"Bedad, it's cruke, me lad,
For never since the banks went broke
Has seasons been so bad."


"It's dry, all right," said young O'Neil,
With which astute remark
He squatted down upon his heel
And chewed a piece of bark.


And so around the chorus ran
"It's keepin' dry, no doubt."
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"Before the year is out."


"The crops are done; ye'll have your work
To save one bag of grain;
From here way out to Back-o'-Bourke
They're singin' out for rain.


"They're singin' out for rain," he said,
"And all the tanks are dry."
The congregation scratched its head,
And gazed around the sky.


"There won't be grass, in any case,
Enough to feed an ass;
There's not a blade on Casey's place
As I came down to Mass."


"If rain don't come this month," said Dan,
And cleared his throat to speak -
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"If rain don't come this week."


A heavy silence seemed to steal
On all at this remark;
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed a piece of bark.


"We want an inch of rain, we do,"
O'Neil observed at last;
But Croke "maintained" we wanted two
To put the danger past.


"If we don't get three inches, man,
Or four to break this drought,
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"Before the year is out."


In God's good time down came the rain;
And all the afternoon
On iron roof and window-pane
It drummed a homely tune.


And through the night it pattered still,
And lightsome, gladsome elves
On dripping spout and window-sill
Kept talking to themselves.


It pelted, pelted all day long,
A-singing at its work,
Till every heart took up the song
Way out to Back-o'-Bourke.


And every creek a banker ran,
And dams filled overtop;
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"If this rain doesn't stop."


And stop it did, in God's good time;
And spring came in to fold
A mantle o'er the hills sublime
Of green and pink and gold.


And days went by on dancing feet,
With harvest-hopes immense,
And laughing eyes beheld the wheat
Nid-nodding o'er the fence.


And, oh, the smiles on every face,
As happy lad and lass
Through grass knee-deep on Casey's place
Went riding down to Mass.


While round the church in clothes genteel
Discoursed the men of mark,
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed his piece of bark.


"There'll be bush-fires for sure, me man,
There will, without a doubt;
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"Before the year is out."

 

[Two Gun Warrior]

I have a pikepass on a few of my cars even the 57 Chevy.
I go to Missouri and take the fast way.

No cell phone though. I can see owning one if it is used for your job but I feel if your job requires you to have one they should pay for it.

F cell phones a very not needed thing for the majority of people in my mind.
Just like many do not like the

Oh, don't worry. There are plenty of 18 wheelers with left-seat passengers to take up the slack.

Left seat passengers? Long time sense I drove a truck, I do not understand.