They don't make tires like they used to.

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Timmy59

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Remember the airless tire concept by Michelin? Wonder why that never made it to mainstream. As long as the inner ribs and the bead stayed intact, it looks like you could just retread it when it wears down (like what the Semi guys do).

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It's been 10 plus years ago that I saw those on a jd mower and a hummer
. I guess whacking a weiney and making a vagina has taken priority.
 

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Those web wall tires are still being made and tested.

Goodyear owns Dunlop, Kelly and Cooper. Still available and American made.

The shelf life is 6 years. I had the factory tires on my pickup. 7 years and 56k miles. Good tread, could see no problems with tires. Blew out the sidewall on driver front. Baseball size hole, no slow leak.
Put on spare, first time on the ground. Barely made it home.

Getting ready for summer lake camping. Had flat on RV. Checked dates and trailer tires were 8 years old. 5 new tires for trailer. Spare had never been on ground.

Those "old" tires get put on hay trailer. Moving hay between barn and pasture. Never on pavement or above 25 mph.
Gets me another 2-3 years out of them.
 

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Hey a post I can chime in on due to experience and stupidity, I had a habit of driving way to fast. :)

I had a complete front tire failure. Totally exploded. Now this tire was speed rated for 120mph. I had purchased a set of 4 and had them on the car about a week, no high speeds on them.

The next week on my way to work sadly my car had a fatal head failure, big nasty crack. :( So since it was my first car, 1973 Gran Torino (I still have it) I parked it in the back yard knowing I had to change the heads, yeah I had spare parts, it has a 1969 429, The car came from the factory with a 302.

Now my job, getting married and life got involved and the car just had to wait. Well I had been out of state working for a long time and had just over 6 weeks paid time off, so I had to do a large list of honey doo's. The car had not moved in just over 2 years. As I was out in my yard repairing a fence, the entire side of the front tire blew out. Yeah it scared me more than a wee bit. But man when it popped it popped. I would be willing to say almost a 1 foot long hole in the side. Right at the edge of the tread and sidewall. I kept my tires at 35 psi, still enough to make one wicked noise. I have been weary of all tires since.

We had a truck at work sitting in the parking lot, 3/4 Ford, and it lost a tire in the same manner. It is just dumb luck neither of those were at highway speed, maybe next to another car when they let go. Nothing good happens when a tire just commits suicide like that.
 
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Funny you should bring that up. I've been bitchin gripin moanin and complainin about wheel barrow tires. Yep, wheel barrow tires.

I bought a 2 front wheel barrow at Atwoods in Stillwater in 2010.

The original tires lasted about 7 years.

Since then, I've purchased 4 new wheel barrow tires ( four !!! ) and they last about 2 years.

They're made in china, and they feel to my touch as if they are made with some plastic instead of all rubber.

I mean, when I want to use the wheel barrow, I want to use it right away, and not have to screw around with flat tires that leak air like crazy and just won't stay up. Maybe someone should market a Viagra for tires. Ha.

(That reminds me: What do you do with 365 used condoms? You recycle them into a tire, and call it a Good Year).


Cheap bastages.

They last about 2 years then won't stay aired up, just leak like crazy.

(It's not Atwoods fault, it's our fault for wanting the lowest possible cost and the mass retailers constantly demanding a lower price of products from their suppliers just to undersell the competition.

And don't get me started on trying to buy a good old American made quality replacement handle for some shovels and rakes. I've had these shovels and rakes for darn near 50 years, and they were my Dad's and Grandpa's before me. Yeah, you can buy a replacement handle, but they're just not as good quality wood as we had before the mass stampede to china for ever cheaper stuff.


Thus it becomes a perpetual cycle, just keep demanding less quality to undersell the competition, they all do it, and it's what I would call a vicious circle.
Fill em with cheap spray foam. There are YouTube videos out there that show which foam to use on your wheel barrow.
 

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Remember the airless tire concept by Michelin? Wonder why that never made it to mainstream. As long as the inner ribs and the bead stayed intact, it looks like you could just retread it when it wears down (like what the Semi guys do).

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A lot of things never made it to the mainstream. No money to be made!
 

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I change my tires when the tread wears or as soon as I notice performance suffering. I’ve never had dry rot, etc. it’s performance that is my usual reason to change them. 4-5 years max.
 

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How the heck do you get 56,000 miles out of tires in Oklahoma? I swear, the tire dealers must go around throwing out screws and nails on the roads.
I'm not at 56,000. I am at 46,000 with some Michelin 10 ply pulling around a 14,000lb + load all over the country. Still have legal tread on them, but they will be changed out before the next outing.
What is weird on these new vehicles (mine anyway) is that the tires have never been rotated in that distance and they show even wear front to rear.
Another thing different in the newer vehicles that I'm personally aware of (3 friends) is that the rear brakes wear out long before the front brake pads. Did it in my Trunra and has done it in the F-250 as well as a friends F-350.
In the past the norm was around 60% wear on the front brake pads with 40% on the rear.
The three of us have only had to replace the rear brake pads with the front doing well.
This is my suspicion, and everyone can call this BS as I don't know but just speculate is that we all have the towing package added.
I think that the new positive traction rear ends are no longer clutch supported, but controlled by the computer. As a wheel loses traction the computer adds brake to the side not needing traction to transfer traction to the side needing it.
I think I have that right?
The tow package also uses rear braking to help when trailer sway becomes an issue. Once again If I'm reading right, it uses the rear brakes to accomplish that.
Some of you Mechanics out there probably have much more intel than myself on this.
 

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