What can a bolt do that a semi-auto can't

[TSQUARE]

A quality AR in 6.5 Grendel is what I would tell you to build. Just more fun than bolt guns, plenty accurate and with certain bullets it's still supersonic at 1200 yards out of a 20" barrel which not even the 7.62X51 will do.

You mentioned that you had a red dot on your AR and I got the impression you didn't think it would do 1 MOA. Could be the red dot. I could hit 8" steel at 300 with my wearing an Aimpoint with a 4mil dot but I couldn't call the shots until I put a scope on it. It was a "Shoot all around it" proposition until I got the ring from the hit. With a scope I get actually get bored at 300 on a bench. My ARs are nothing special either. One is a bone stock M&P15 M4 clone and the other is an 18" mid weight DPMS barreled franken upper that I use for 3gun. Both will hit 8" steel at 300 every single shot off the bench with run of the mill 55gr FMJ loads. Will they do better with a killer handload at 69 or 77 grains? Danged if I know, I've never seen a need to find out. Going to 500 will probably need a good 69gr SMK handload. Bottom line is put on a decent piece of glass for distance work. Some red dots are okay for about 200 yards but that's really it. The 1x6 tactical scopes out are really good and some are even up to 1X8 now.

Build a nice 6.5, put in a decent trigger and piece of glass, get a bi-pod and you'll be able to hit farther than you'll want to.

Thank you very much for the input. I have an MPX 9mm for my up close and personal weapon. I have an AR (now for sell) that I have no doubt would be more accurate than I can shoot. I was more curious about having something to reach out and really put a thumping on something if need be. I did not think there was one gun that could go out and make the hit and also be okay for a cqb too. I'm extremely limited in my rifle caliber knowledge. I will look into the 6.5.


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[Shadowrider]

Here's a link to some info and source for a build. Bear in mind that these guys are the main driver of the round and they may have just a bit of bias. lol

But I do think the round is a good one. I'm going to build one for my primary hunting rifle one of these days. You can get factory ammo too, I've seen it at Academy and I saw some today at Cabelas. Some of it's pricey but it's out there.

http://www.alexanderarms.com/products/65-grendel

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

What are you wanting to thump from 500+ yards? I have family that are natives to Idaho and Wyoming that hunt elk with 243.

 

[Larry Morgan]

A bolt gun is used when the utmost accuracy and reliability are needed. 1 MOA is pretty achievable with either without a lot of budget. 1/2 MOA is sometimes achievable from a factory bolt gun (can't speak to semi-autos), but nobody besides a custom builder will ever guarantee it. Sub 1/4 moa? That's getting into benchrest territory.

For semi-auto I'd go 6.5 Grendel. There are even a few people that have used it in 1000yd F-class bolt guns. It's a fantastic round overall. For a bolt gun, take your pick.. If I had to build a bolt gun right this second I'd probably choose 7mm-08 or .260.

 

[crrcboatz]

Say all you want about black rifle AR style rifles when talking accuracy but in the end if they were as accurate as a bolt the best paper punchers in the world would be using them. BOLT GUNS HANDS DOWN ARE MORE ACCURATE.

 

[surjimmy]

Tikka T3

 

[ldp4570]

I know its old school, but don't over look 30-06. From 100gr. to 220gr. projectile's with the proper powder charge, you can shoot just about anything you want, and just about any distance too!!! Bolt action and semi auto are available.

 

[TSQUARE]

I believe I am going to pick up a Remington 700 sps tactical in .308. I like the aftermarket support available for it


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[ldp4570]

I believe I am going to pick up a Remington 700 sps tactical in .308. I like the aftermarket support available for it


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Go on GunBroker and look for the Remington 700 Sendero in 308. Same gun as their tactical model but not as expensive.

 

[crrcboatz]

Tikka T3

Here Here!! I have a T3 that began its life as a 25 06. It now has a Shelen match plus grade non tapered 25" 257 Roberts barrel on it. With custom stock from Austria it weighs 15lbs but well is as an accurate rifle as I have ever owned. Anyone need a new never fired Tikka T3 25 06 barrel?????