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From Ace - "Muslims, as a group, have next to zero political power or influence. Muslims have no social or financial power or influence in this country"

Except perhaps these......

* Abedin, Huma: Deputy Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
* Abunimah, Ali: Vice president of the Arab American Action Network
* Al-Hibri, Azizah: U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom
* Al-Mansour, Khalid Abdullah Tariq: Patron of Obama during 1980s
* Al-Marayati, Salam: Representative of the U.S. government at the annual Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe conference
* Alikhan, Areef: Department of Homeland Security
* Arab American Action Network: Received money from Woods Fund when Obama was board member of Woods Fund
* Barack H. Obama Foundation: Headed by President Obama's half-brother, who oversees the Muslim Brotherhood's international investments
* Asbahi, Mazen: National Coordinator for Muslim American Affairs (during 2008 presidential campaign)
* Elibiary, Mohamed: Homeland Security Advisory Council
* Husaini, Minha: National Coordinator for Muslim American Affairs (during 2008 presidential campaign)
* Hussain, Rashad: Special Envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference
* Khalidi, Rashid: Professor of Middle East Studies at Columbia University
* Magid, Mohamed: Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) Countering Violent Extremism Working Group
* Mattson, Ingrid: Invited by Obama advisor to work on the White House Council on Women and Girls
* Mogahed, Dalia: Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships
* Obama, Abon'go Malik: the older half-brother of Barack Obama
* Patel, Eboo: Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships
* Said, Edward: Professor and Arab activist who was keynote speaker at 1998 fundraiser attended by Obama
* Shora, Kareem: Homeland Security Advisory Council
* Shora, Nawar: Senior Advisor to the Civil Rights and Liberties Office of the Transportation Security Administration

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=844

Of course, there are additional reams of information available for the curious....

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/0...as-muslim-appointees-high-security-positions/

And try these for fun -

Answer: "Who is John Brennen?" Question: "Which Muslim convert is leading the CIA?"

Answer: "Who is Kieth Ellision?" Question: "Who represents Minnesota's 5th district in congress?"

Answer: "Who is Andre Carson?" Question: "Who represents Indiana's 7th district in congress?"

You forgot Valerie Jarrett - Sr Political Advisor to Obama and nut case.
 

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From Ace - "Muslims, as a group, have next to zero political power or influence. Muslims have no social or financial power or influence in this country"

Answer: "Who is John Brennen?" Question: "Which Muslim convert is leading the CIA?"

Answer: "Who is Kieth Ellision?" Question: "Who represents Minnesota's 5th district in congress?"

Answer: "Who is Andre Carson?" Question: "Who represents Indiana's 7th district in congress?"



So let's do some math.

1% of the population are Muslim
There are 535 members of Congress.
So for Muslims to have an accurate representation, they would have 5.35 representatives.
Yet they have 2. It appears as though they are significantly underrepresented.

Then about the Muslim security advisors et. al. Don't you think it would be a good idea to have some experts on the culture whom you are engaged in perpetual war with?
 

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From Ace - "Muslims, as a group, have next to zero political power or influence. Muslims have no social or financial power or influence in this country"

Except perhaps these......


* Arab American Action Network: Received money from Woods Fund when Obama was board member of Woods Fund
* Barack H. Obama Foundation: Headed by President Obama's half-brother, who oversees the Muslim Brotherhood's international investments

* Obama, Abon'go Malik: the older half-brother of Barack Obama


And try these for fun -

Answer: "Who is John Brennen?" Question: "Which Muslim convert is leading the CIA?"

As a counter to my statement that Muslims have next to zero political influence, the best you can do is a very, very short list that includes the ones above.

Let's talk about them.

The Arab American Action Network has political influence because the Woods Fund gave it some small grant (about $75k) 15 years ago? Sure, makes sense.

The Barack H. Obama Foundation has nothing to do with the President. It was founded by his half-brother in their father's name. It has less capital than my banking account. And you might want to do a bit of research before claiming that Obama's half-brother has political influence in this country. Here's the Reader's Digest version, he has none. Zero, zip, zilch.

I've saved the best for last. Who is John Brennen? Maybe you should do a little more research, otherwise you might repeat claims that make you look very, very foolish. Or gullible. Or both.

I think the fact that that list is the best you can do not only in no way refutes my point, it strengthens it.
 

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So let's do some math.

1% of the population are Muslim
There are 535 members of Congress.
So for Muslims to have an accurate representation, they would have 5.35 representatives.
Yet they have 2. It appears as though they are significantly underrepresented.

Then about the Muslim security advisors et. al. Don't you think it would be a good idea to have some experts on the culture whom you are engaged in perpetual war with?

He just showed you and Ace a huge list that proves he was wrong, including the most senior and closest advisor to the President of the United States. Yet you cherry pick one area that's mildly underrepresented? American Indians are 1% of the population and they only have 2 members of the 113th Congress as well. Does that mean non-Native Americans are xenophobic of Native Americans?

Pointing out and discussing facts is not xenophobia. If it is, then the word itself is no longer a negative adjective. It merely means that what you don't know may be harmful until determined to be otherwise. Would you want to invite members of ISIS to America? If not, does that make you xenophobic? After all, you're categorizing an entire foreign population who are strange and different from you as bad for America, right? How do you know for sure they won't arrive here and renounce the Caliphate? You don't, but you can assign a "risk score" to the proposition. It's called "intelligence".

Simply put, not one single person has provided a valid reason why the Syrian refugees would be better placed in the U.S. than one of the numerous predominantly Muslim countries in the Middle East with functional governments and cash to burn. Or why they'd be better off living in the woods in Northern Sweden for that matter. One person categorized all of them as "sh$t holes nobody wants to live in". If anything, categorizing an entire region run by ethnic Muslims as a "sh$thole" would be xenophobic, correct?

Pointing out facts is not xenophobia. Pointing out that 2nd & 3rd generation Muslim immigrants are traveling to Syria to fight for the Caliphate isn't xenophobia, nor is pointing out that the U.S. government has a terrible track record at "vetting" our own security clearance holders with fully transparent records and histories. Do you really think they're going to do better with refugees from Syria, a country we've had on the State Sponsors of Terrorism list since 1979? Seriously?

This isn't xenophobia, so why don't you stop with that nonsense already. It is exceedingly tedious, not to mention inherently false. :(
 

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Assault weapons were not even envisioned back when the second amendment was written. The implications of those words has changed greatly since they were written.

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That's not correct. In its day the rifled musket was feared and considered unreasonable in the theater of war by the British that were still using smooth bores. Both were weapons designed for use by their military. That makes them "assault weapons".

BTW what is the definition of an Assault weapon?

The lever gun was considered unfair. The AR was in the same category. The 2nd is very clear to most of us.
 

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