Ryan Walters is freaking the HE double chopsticks out of the libs

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Outside of the OKC and Tulsa metro schools what other of Oklahoma's 400+ districts are ran by liberals?
I have no official numbers, but I would estimate at least 50 to 75% but this has been going that direction for 40 years. However a community would never know with the level of involvement parents have today in their kid’s education today.

Public education today is mostly babysitting and parents freak out when they can’t just turn the kid over to the system. It’s an major inconvenience when the school shuts down for some reason and a lot of parents go all Karen.
I hope what is happening is that these 2 income families are seeing the repercussions of what happens when leaving their children with the state. And that includes the college indoctrination.

Things a changing. It may be at least in part due to the great resignation that has happened over the last year. Resignations have averaged over 4 million per month. I hope some of this is at least a parent staying home with their kids to help raise them the way they want and not how the teachers union wants them raised.
 

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I have no official numbers, but I would estimate at least 50 to 75% but this has been going that direction for 40 years. However a community would never know with the level of involvement parents have today in their kid’s education today.

Wow. You really think it's that many? Parental involvement is definitely critical to a child's education. Unfortunately, many see it exactly how you mention below and don't bother to work with their child at home to even have a clue what's going on in their classrooms.

Public education today is mostly babysitting and parents freak out when they can’t just turn the kid over to the system. It’s an major inconvenience when the school shuts down for some reason and a lot of parents go all Karen.

My wife has taught 1st, 3rd and 4th grades over the years. Every fall in 1st grade she had to spend the first few weeks working with her kids socially instead of actually teaching a lesson. Most of them had no idea how to interact with other kids. 3rd and 4th grade still has some of that, but not as many kids need that help at that age.

Do you think if all Oklahoma schools adopted the "year round" model that the breaks being spread out would help with some of those "Karens"?

I hope what is happening is that these 2 income families are seeing the repercussions of what happens when leaving their children with the state. And that includes the college indoctrination.

It's definitely a mixed bag, but for some of these students the love from a teacher at various ages is sometimes all they get.

Things a changing. It may be at least in part due to the great resignation that has happened over the last year. Resignations have averaged over 4 million per month. I hope some of this is at least a parent staying home with their kids to help raise them the way they want and not how the teachers union wants them raised.

The last thing my wife wants to do is raise someone else's kids. She'll love them and teach them all she can when they're in her classroom, but raising them isn't her responsibility.
 

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You'd almost think that creating an economy where both parents have to work, and the kids get 100% indoctrination from the government was planned.

Are the kids never seen by their parents or something? Do those who basically let the school "babysit" their kids the ones who get the most indoctrination? If parents aren't involved in their kids lives who do you think is going to have the biggest influence on them?

What grades have the most intense indoctrination programs?
 

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Outside of the OKC and Tulsa metro schools what other of Oklahoma's 400+ districts are ran by liberals?
That there is the problem. Why in the $%#& do we have 400+ school districts in this state? What a waste of admin costs and government fat. At the most we should have one district per county which all the schools report. That would be 77 districts which is still probably too many.

Example in my area, why does Banner, Darlington and other dinky schools have its own school and are not part of El Reno PS? Why does Crooked Oak in the freaking middle of OKC have its own school district? Union in Tulsa should be part of TPS. Heck, Mustang, Western Heights and Yukon should all be in the same district.

I hear complaints about too many kids in classrooms (which is correct) but we could have the money for teachers if we trim the fat on admin costs. My wife works for the schools and the schools are packed and they keep adding admin jobs and not teachers. I just don't get it, other than the desire to not lose the "hometown school" or because of sports.
 

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Are the kids never seen by their parents or something? Do those who basically let the school "babysit" their kids the ones who get the most indoctrination? If parents aren't involved in their kids lives who do you think is going to have the biggest influence on them?

What grades have the most intense indoctrination programs?

It sure seems that way. I know guys that their main interaction with their kids is playing video games together. They are ignorant, and their kids will be ignorant as well.

Men and women don't seem to take the job of parenting seriously, and don't think their children's education is their responsibility.

The economic situation doesn't excuse that, but it does amplify the problem.
 

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Outside of the large urban districts, how many districts are being run by liberals?

As a lifelong educator, political conservative, state delegate, county official, and platform committee member in the GOP, I am disturbed by the success of the propaganda about public education in Oklahoma.

Do conservatives really believe that the teachers that mostly vote conservative in a conservative state are mindless rubes of the OEA? An organization that most educators I know do not belong to. I've read what the liberal educators are saying and it is as illogical as the what I'm reading from the right.
Look at any smaller town. The most liberal place will be the school. The schools in the two big cities are commie indoctrination centers.

Remember the teacher crap at the capital when they had their rallies? Did you see them? Most certainly majority lib.


And dont get me started and the mask ******** that most supported.
 

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It sure seems that way. I know guys that their main interaction with their kids is playing video games together. They are ignorant, and their kids will be ignorant as well.

Men and women don't seem to take the job of parenting seriously, and don't think their children's education is their responsibility.

The economic situation doesn't excuse that, but it does amplify the problem.
We are a two income household and I dont think that is an excuse for not making time for the kids and their development. It is often difficult and sometimes I regret not having as much patience as I should after a rough day, but we make it happen. My only real complaint with what I have seen so far at Piedmont Schools is their willingness to accept late work is FAR too lenient and not having actual text books to send home so I can see how they are teaching the kids so I can reinforce it at home. The second part is especially difficult for math homework and how different the methods are now versus what I learned.

We do see a LOT of parents that seem to have taken the concept of letting kids have a chance to be kids to the extreme. I have always been of the mindset that I am managing adults in training. It is my job to give them the skills and social knowledge to navigate life successfully while allowing them plenty of opportunities to let their hair down and just be kids. I expect them to know how to do both and it is my job to teach them when each is appropriate. I also let them know they should never get so "grown up" they forget to recognize the opportunities to be a "kid" even when they are adults.
 

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Wow. You really think it's that many? Parental involvement is definitely critical to a child's education. Unfortunately, many see it exactly how you mention below and don't bother to work with their child at home to even have a clue what's going on in their classrooms.



My wife has taught 1st, 3rd and 4th grades over the years. Every fall in 1st grade she had to spend the first few weeks working with her kids socially instead of actually teaching a lesson. Most of them had no idea how to interact with other kids. 3rd and 4th grade still has some of that, but not as many kids need that help at that age.

Do you think if all Oklahoma schools adopted the "year round" model that the breaks being spread out would help with some of those "Karens"?



It's definitely a mixed bag, but for some of these students the love from a teacher at various ages is sometimes all they get.



The last thing my wife wants to do is raise someone else's kids. She'll love them and teach them all she can when they're in her classroom, but raising them isn't her responsibility.
My wife is degreed in elementary education as well. We decided that our kids would be better off if she stayed home instead of working away from home.

My youngest, who’s in her teens now, was pulled from public school after spending her 1st grade there. She had an advantage because of her mom, but my daughter was reading to the class while the others were learning their colors, numbers and letters. This is directly related to the amount of time parents spent with their children.
 
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