Charlotte Trucking Company Owner Fights for $39,500 Police Took from Him(Civil Asset Forfeiture) at Phoenix Airport

[red442joe]

Do I wanna catch a ban.....

Joe

 

[trekrok]

There was a bill to eliminate this theft by cop a few years ago.

LEO organizations lobbied against it, as well as individual county departments who claimed it would financially cripple the department.

I don't have any particular problem with the criminal seizures, but the civil ones where they never even file a charge are crap.

Civil should be wiped out. If not, they should have to pay 5X the seized amount plus attorney fees if someone sues and wins. But even then it's wrong.

 

[xtremerange]

I remember this one but don't recall the resolution either. This is probably a sweet spot for seizures since there is no way you could justify an attorney to sue to get your $10k back. Except on principle.

Whole thing is crooked.

There was an incident where such a person was driving a church van on a mission trip. Took a lot of fighting and press before the Sheriff would give the money back to the church. (Don't remember county but this sounds like it - 3-5 years ago.

 

[TedKennedy]

I don't have any particular problem with the criminal seizures, but the civil ones where they never even file a charge are crap.

Civil should be wiped out. If not, they should have to pay 5X the seized amount plus attorney fees if someone sues and wins. But even then it's wrong.

At what point does roadside thievery become "criminal"? When arrested? When charged? Convicted?

If a cop isn't arresting you for a crime, he needs to leave you alone and keep his hands off your stuff.

 

[1shott]

If a person is rolling around with for example meth, and a lot of it, plus a ton of cash, then Ya I get the seizure thing.

But to take someones cash, that they may have pulled out of a savings account, or from their mattress or mason jar in the back yard, is pure BS and needs to be dealt with harshly. Losing cleet certs and QI for starters.

 

[trekrok]

At what point does roadside thievery become "criminal"? When arrested? When charged? Convicted?

If a cop isn't arresting you for a crime, he needs to leave you alone and keep his hands off your stuff.

I'd say if you are convicted of a crime. Otherwise, you are literally at risk of losing chunks of money if the LE thinks it 'looks fishy'.

 

[aarondhgraham]

The moral of this story is,,,
Never carry large amounts of cash.

I've never heard of any LE confiscating a cashier's check.

Aarond

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[1shott]

The moral of this story is,,,
Never carry large amounts of cash.

I've never heard of any LE confiscating a cashier's check.

Aarond

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Cash is legal tender for all debts public and private. You can carry around all the cash you want to, LE should never be allowed to take your property without due process. We as Americans have a founding document that states that.

These are your rights as well as others, fight for them.

 

[sh00ter]

There was a case in Canadian County where a sheriff deputy stopped some Chinese men who had something in the 10k range in cash- it was confiscated, and the DA tries to connect them to drug activity with no drug evidence whatsoever. Of course, the DA continued forward with the intention of keeping the money, because it's just your taxpayer money paying for all this anyway. I didn't ever hear the outcome, but my take is that is there was no illegal activity that can be proven, how can they do that.

Yes, how do they live with themselves at night...they probably think they are good, conservative, moral people too. The reason we lose and all this woke stuff advances, etc. is because of bad people on our side who masquerade as good people. The dems just do what they do and are akin to General Zod. But the real reason we are losing the country is because of Lex Luther.

I recall someone posting this one awhile back as well:

 

[aarondhgraham]

Personally, I would rather avoid the situation in the first place,,,
I passed on a nice used truck a year ago,,,
Seller wanted 8K in cash only.

I am always a bit leery of "cash only" purchases in the thousands,,,
My cashiers check is legal tender as well,,,
Or at least legitimate tender.

If the seller won't take a cashiers check,,,
I ain't buying his product.

Fighting for my rights is one thing,,,
Trying to get money back from a corrupt local government is another.

Aarond

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