Gold wash vs. gold plate?

dlbleak · Apr 23, 2017

We got dad a henry 22 for his birthday and he's says he's never going to shoot it. Dad want to 'snazz' it up a little. He wants to have the lever,barrel band, hammer and trigger gold plated.
Since he's never going to shoot it, I think a gold wash would be a cheaper route.
Does anyone recommend a shop or jeweler to wash or plate if we need to.

ConstitutionCowboy · Apr 23, 2017

Be careful where or to whom you send it to for plating. If you don't do it yourself on your own gun, it must be sent to someone who holds a FFL. It holds true even for gun parts.

Woody

dlbleak · Apr 23, 2017

Wow, you are correct Woody. I didn't remember that until you mentioned it. Thanks
So,does anyone know a gunsmith that does it?

gfercaks33 · Apr 23, 2017

ConstitutionCowboy said:
Be careful where or to whom you send it to for plating. If you don't do it yourself on your own gun, it must be sent to someone who holds a FFL. It holds true even for gun parts.

Woody

I'm not saying your wrong and I do believe you, but that is just asinine having a lever that is disassembled needing an ffl. At that point it's a loop of metal not a gun.

ConstitutionCowboy · Apr 23, 2017

gfercaks33 said:
I'm not saying your wrong and I do believe you, but that is just asinine having a lever that is disassembled needing an ffl. At that point it's a loop of metal not a gun.

Asinine is an understatement.

Woody

Dave70968 · Apr 24, 2017

ConstitutionCowboy said:
Be careful where or to whom you send it to for plating. If you don't do it yourself on your own gun, it must be sent to someone who holds a FFL. It holds true even for gun parts.

Woody

Can you cite to something official saying it applies even to parts? Usually, only the receiver is a "gun;" that's how Brownell's, etc. can ship things without going to an FFL.

ConstitutionCowboy · Apr 24, 2017

Dave70968 said:
Can you cite to something official saying it applies even to parts? Usually, only the receiver is a "gun;" that's how Brownell's, etc. can ship things without going to an FFL.

I'll look it up today or tomorrow. As for Brownells or anyone else selling parts, it is no problem. The issue has to do with gunsmithing and manufacturing.

Woody

tyromeo55 · Apr 24, 2017

To conduct business as a gunsmith one would be required to have an FFL IF the parts are taken off by the owner they can be shipped to anyone for plating. "Parts" are not considered a firearm.

If you'd like to know how the ATF defines a Gunsmith you can look here.....

https://www.atf.gov/file/82791/download

Dave70968 · Apr 24, 2017

Gunsmithing
A dealer is “engaged in the business” of gunsmithing, as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(21)(D) and 27 CFR 478.11, when he/she receives firearms (frames, receivers, or otherwise) provided by a customer for the purpose of repairing, modifying, embellishing, refurbishing, or installing parts in or on those firearms. Once the work is completed, the gunsmith returns the firearms, and charges the customer for labor and parts.

This matches my understanding. If you send parts that you've already taken off of the frame/receiver/part with the serial number, the 'smith won't be receiving a firearm, just machine parts.

ConstitutionCowboy · Apr 26, 2017

Dave70968 said:
Can you cite to something official saying it applies even to parts? Usually, only the receiver is a "gun;" that's how Brownell's, etc. can ship things without going to an FFL.

Ok, I've done some digging. There is no specific law that says anyone who makes or works on a firearm part must be licensed. However, you can't take your whole gun, whether assembled or in a basket, to such a person to have them work on a part unless that person is licensed.

Suppose you want to shorten the barrel on your gun. You can take the barrel to an unlicensed(no FFL) machine shop to have it cut down, but you cannot take it to that machine shop if the barrel is still attached to the receiver/frame. It would be the same for plating a part. Only the part can be taken to the unlicensed plating shop.

Here is the text I found from the ATF:

Section 7.8 Locations. Your licensed premises is where your manufacturing must be done. ATF is

often asked by a manufacturer whether he or she can conduct a manufacturing operation elsewhere, such

as a nearby machine shop. While, in general, component parts can be made at a site other than the

licensed premises, if the part being made is a receiver, silencer part, or a procedure is being performed

(such as shortening of the barrel of a rifle or shotgun) where the complete firearm is there, the operation

must be done on the licensed manufacturing premises. If components are modified or fabricated at a

location where all other parts for a complete firearm are present, the location must be licensed as a

manufacturer.

So, it can be done at an unlicensed premises as long as only the part is taken to the shop (not a receiver, silencer part, or the whole gun).

I stand "corrected".

Woody

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