CV 19 When will we take it seriously?

Aries · Mar 22, 2020

I think what we are, and will see is people stepping up to help each other out. Things like this tend to pull decent people together.

There is, of course, the lowest element of society, so there will undoubtedly be some of that, too. But I think that will be the exception. Most people are basically good, and that tends to come out in a crisis.

donner · Mar 22, 2020

i'm still surprised at the people who think this is overblown (and more so a hoax). There are plenty of examples coming out of places that show the danger we face.

Legend · Mar 22, 2020

Here’s an interesting graphic.
https://covidactnow.org/state/OK

donner · Mar 22, 2020

dennishoddy said:
The media wasn't 24-7 on the flu like they are with this virus.
CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza. The number of influenza-associated illnesses that occurred last season was similar to the estimated number of influenza-associated illnesses during the 2012–2013 influenza season when an estimated 34 million people had symptomatic influenza illness.
With the carona virus death toll miniscule in comparison to the flu, public awareness is heightened which should be a wake up moment for the population in general to follow precautions that they never have before.

This isn't meant to be a jab at your or anything, but one problem with comparisons like this is that you're comparing a known outcome with an unknown. It's impossible to say that cases now wont be higher (or lower, for that matter), so saying that 'the flu is worse' because you have an entire year's data vs a handful of months isn't an accurate comparison.

Also, recognize that the totals for covid are still rising *despite* an unprecedented level of response. What would flu levels look like if we had social distancing? Yes, there is heightened awareness and fear, but also heightened response and yet we still unsure if we've done enough.

And when comparing deaths, the two have a distinct difference in natural immunity. We know the flu, have vaccinations for it and have exposure to it for all our lives. Those things play into a natural response that helps most people get over it better. We don't have that with covid 19.

But as has been stated many times, most people will get over this and a certain percentage will die (in much the same way as with the flu). But the load on our health system will play a big roll in what happens to the group that will get it and will need medical treatment. I think that is something that a lot of people miss when making the comparison to the flu. The rate of speed here is going to force a lot of tough choices to be made and the overall fatality rate will be affected by those choices.

dancer4life · Mar 22, 2020

My wife and I are taking it real seriously. We closed out business last Wednesday and will most likely stay closed until at least the first part of April.
We have been self distancing from our lake house here on Grand Lake. We are deciding today whether to stay here another week or go back to Yukon. Just not sure yet. It's so peaceful here, gonna be hard to leave.

Timmy59 · Mar 22, 2020

I've taken 2 weeks of vacation to work at home and make greater progress on the human food plots and to distance ourselves from contact for that period.. This has rolled in fast and hard and I don't care to 2nd guess how bad its going to be..

Snattlerake · Mar 22, 2020

Mom and dad passed two years ago. Both were at assisted living. I guarantee one would have given the other one the virus and wifey and I couldn't / woudn't have been there. Maybe even have attended the funerals, who knows.

Michael Armstrong · Mar 22, 2020

Michael Armstrong said:
from October to February cdc estimates 12k. 2592 hours. Four deaths per hour average. Italy had 627 in 24 hours for an average of 26 hourly.

This is assuming we suffer the same as it

Seadog said:
Flame on. Who knows. It could be a stereotype. Aren’t people in Italy a little more ripe? As in not cleaning and bathing near as much as their American counterparts? Like the 1950s and back? That could be a major role in it?

Yes they are older by average. But if it is happening there I don't see how we can avoid it

Pstmstr · Mar 22, 2020

No one will take it seriously until it affects them or someone they care about. We live in me me me society with little regard for others or actions we should take to help others. It's like the people taking more than they need from stores and others not being able to get basic necessities. I can only imagine what would happen if a simple thing like electricity suddenly vanished. America has way too many candy a--ed entitled crybabies that wouldn't last a week if it happened.

TerryMiller · Mar 22, 2020

Dale00 said:
It is possible that some will flip from not taking it seriously to panicking if and when there is an impactful death count... when they drive by the hospital and see a crowd there like they have been seeing at the stores...
The cash payout that is coming is, in part, to reduce the possibility of some turning to criminal acts by giving hope to those who have lost their income.
Loving your neighbor is more than an abstract nicety, it means valuing and helping others.

We were in Walmart the other day, buying some groceries, when I walked by the TP aisle. I saw a guy, probably in his 40's, getting the last two four-pack bundles of TP. As he turned around, he saw an older gentleman standing there. No words were exchanged, but the younger guy handed the older one one of the four-packs.

Did my heart good.

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