Agreed. I have printed out the whole of the SDA and read and re-read until I understood. Items I found completly understandable I trashed, items I deemed needing re-read on ocassion I kept.
Agreed. I have printed out the whole of the SDA and read and re-read until I understood. Items I found completly understandable I trashed, items I deemed needing re-read on ocassion I kept.
You can use it whenever you choose. The consequences of that will be determined by the totality of the circumstances and the legal/political landscape in which the incident occurs.
It's to complex to say a) use it or b) don't use it.
It's to complex to say a) use it or b) don't use it.
You can defend the life of another using the amount of force they would likely use. You are stepping into their shoes essentially. It's recommended to only use lethal force defending the life of an employee, employer, family member etc, as you dont know the situation a lot of times. However, OK law does recognize the right to defend others if there is no other option, but when defending another (unknown person) being a good witness and calling 911 is the first option.
The explanations immediately above reflect my understanding as well. I think an SDA carrier runs out of legal cover when he interjects himself into an unknown situation (ie, seeing a fistfight while driving) and brings a firearm to bear in defense of one or the other. A call to 911 is the answer there.
For example, in Arkansas last week, a CCW shopper saw a group beating a man in a Walmart parking lot. (The group turned out to be the victim's relatives.) The CCWer was never personally threatened, but approached, pulled his firearm and chased off the group. While admirable, it seems that this action would have been a violation of OK SDA, had it happened here. Someone here please correct me if I'm wrong.
For example, in Arkansas last week, a CCW shopper saw a group beating a man in a Walmart parking lot. (The group turned out to be the victim's relatives.) The CCWer was never personally threatened, but approached, pulled his firearm and chased off the group. While admirable, it seems that this action would have been a violation of OK SDA, had it happened here. Someone here please correct me if I'm wrong.
^^^This, plus studying the law on your own. It will likely be an unsuccessful defense when you tell the jury "but that's what they said on internet forums about when I could use deadly force".
Just print this off and keep it with you. Seems it is ok to stop and render assistance and use deadly force if needed. This is the only story I could find locally where someone did what you were asking about.
http://www.ktul.com/story/27872732/police-investigate-shooting-at-10th-and-denver
http://www.ktul.com/story/27872732/police-investigate-shooting-at-10th-and-denver
I suggest you take the basic pistol class at www.Badlandstactical.net .. They will assist you in helping you make a very clear decisive decision on what circumstances require or justify an armed responsefrom you.
--Justin
No class required. If your pissing down your leg in fear of your life you should probably draw your gun. If your not feeling that fear, dont draw.
Agreed. It really is that simple... for some people that have to go through a class to understand that..
My understanding has always been.....lethal force can only be used against lethal force; somebody punching you with their fists doesn't inherently equal lethal force. Of course even that is circumstantial as we saw with the Treyvon case, etc.(fear of loss of life or limb can be argued against an "stronger" unarmed aggressor).
