Attacking Iran: Realism and Details

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Iran does business with Russia, China, N. Korea, India, Japan(to a certain extent) Several european countries as well. None or very few of these countries share Irans religious beliefs. Yet Iran has treaties and trades freely with these countries.

Israel trades with hundreds of countries who have nothing in common with their religious veiws.

So ill refresh my question, do you know of any country that uses ancient religious text or religious prophecy to form a national defence or a national policy? Iran doenst, Israel doesnt either.
 

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Iran does business with Russia, China, N. Korea, India, Japan(to a certain extent) Several european countries as well. None or very few of these countries share Irans religious beliefs. Yet Iran has treaties and trades freely with these countries.

Israel trades with hundreds of countries who have nothing in common with their religious veiws.

So ill refresh my question, do you know of any country that uses ancient religious text or religious prophecy to form a national defence or a national policy? Iran doenst, Israel doesnt either.

neither of the two countries trade with each other or have diplomatic relations with one another based on opposing religious principals. the specific part of your question about "uses ancient religious text or religious prophecy to form a national defence", is what i was referring to. Of course each country trades with people who dont have the same religious views, some even trade with countries that have religious views counter to their own. Defense policy is a different animal.
 

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im certain the passage your quoting is meant to be read as symbolism. There is no nation that im aware of that would consider using ancient text and prophesy's to mold a national defence or national policies. Remember, even Iran, Syria and N. Korea have allies and trade freely with those allies. Those same countries do the same thing we do, try to sway governments to trade something of value for oil.

Religious beliefs of the Iranians have nothing to do with tradeing with China, Russia or N. Korea, after all those countries are just as much infidels as we are. So there has to be another reasonwhy they look at us with unfavorable eyes.

maybe Tibet but they are occupied. Which countries then?

The United States, if the neocon fundamentalist chicken hawks, who never wore a uniform themselves, had their way.
 

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... ill refresh my question, do you know of any country that uses ancient religious text or religious prophecy to form a national defence or a national policy? Iran doenst, Israel doesnt either.

Iran certainly does... it is trying to aquire atomic weapons to attack Israel and the Great Satan [America] because it is in their religion that they have to bring about world chaos or conflict in order to bring their Mahdi back from the well.

Remeber, these are 'true' religious believers. They are the kind of people who cut off people's heads for doing what we consider to be every day acts of living. And if they will kill for what we consider to be every day acts because it violates their religious beliefs... it isn't unreasonable to believe they will use a atomic weapon the first chance they can in order to bring back their Mahdi. There were some Muslim extremists just this last week that went to a home where there was dancing going on... and beheaded everyone there.

This link points out several times where the Iranian President has prayed for the quick return of the 12th Mahdi.

http://ultimitempi.blogspot.com/2006/09/iran-ahmadinejad-and-12th-mahdi.html
 

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Iran certainly does... it is trying to aquire atomic weapons to attack Israel and the Great Satan [America] because it is in their religion that they have to bring about world chaos or conflict in order to bring their Mahdi back from the well.

Remeber, these are 'true' religious believers. They are the kind of people who cut off people's heads for doing what we consider to be every day acts of living. And if they will kill for what we consider to be every day acts because it violates their religious beliefs... it isn't unreasonable to believe they will use a atomic weapon the first chance they can in order to bring back their Mahdi. There were some Muslim extremists just this last week that went to a home where there was dancing going on... and beheaded everyone there.

This link points out several times where the Iranian President has prayed for the quick return of the 12th Mahdi.

http://ultimitempi.blogspot.com/2006/09/iran-ahmadinejad-and-12th-mahdi.html

Ahmadinejad is on his way out soon.

Please find another bogeyman to scare us all and justify a new holy war.
 

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Iran does business with Russia, China, N. Korea, India, Japan(to a certain extent) Several european countries as well. None or very few of these countries share Irans religious beliefs. Yet Iran has treaties and trades freely with these countries.

Israel trades with hundreds of countries who have nothing in common with their religious veiws.

So ill refresh my question, do you know of any country that uses ancient religious text or religious prophecy to form a national defence or a national policy? Iran doenst, Israel doesnt either.








THIS ONE GETS REALLY RELIGIOUS AT THE 1:15 mark

 
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Ahmadinejad is on his way out soon.

Please find another bogeyman to scare us all and justify a new holy war.




You do realize Iran is a theocracy right?




the·oc·ra·cy
   [thee-ok-ruh-see] Show IPA
noun, plural the·oc·ra·cies.
1.
a form of government in which God or a deity is recognized as the supreme civil ruler, the God's or deity's laws being interpreted by the ecclesiastical authorities.
2.
a system of government by priests claiming a divine commission.
3.
a commonwealth or state under such a form or system of government.



BTW I do NOT advocate for war with Iran in any way. We need to mind our own business and drill our own damn oil and not give two flying craps about what happens in the sand box.
 

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You do realize Iran is a theocracy right?
Yep, and everything he quoted came from one man, Ahmadinejad.

Ahmadinejad is quite the blowhard that spouts inflammatory rhetoric designed to appeal to his fundamentalist Islamic base.
Every time he spouts off about Israel should be wiped out by God, he reaps thousands of votes from his religious base.
He also gives the Jewish and Christian fundamentalists cause to quote him to justify whatever foreign adventures they deem desirable.

It's no way to compose foreign policy.
 

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