CA Fires

[John6185]

Yes, we should aspire to be more like the Europeans....LOL.

Sometimes we can learn from others. Take Israel for instance, no other country has such a strong yet effective security program, and their border security is unparalleled-it has to be if they are to survive. Our TSA needs to employ some of their security techniques and they'd have less complaints from the citizens of this country. It would probably be less expensive also. Our Departments and programs are rife with corruption and overspending.

 

[Dale00]

Malibu can learn from nearby Pepperdine University, which did not need to evaculate becuase of excellent site and building design and excellent yearly maintenance in clearing away all nearby plant materials:

The style of the campus could be called Mediterranean modern: angular cast-concrete volumes situated around wide concrete plazas with spectacular ocean vistas. The steel-framed structures make good use of fire-resistant decorative materials like glass and ceramic tile.

The shapes of the buildings, with their steep Spanish-tile rooflines, also ensure that fast-moving fire won’t get trapped beneath deep eaves. Smaller structures and architectural elements are covered in stucco, without any exposed wood trim.

“The stucco box is horribly designed 95 percent of the time, but stucco is a very common material—and it’s a fantastic fire deterrent,” says Abeer Sweis, a designer whose Santa Monica-based firm has built fire-resistant homes.

“More even than material,” she says, “it’s the siting and the space between the buildings” that matters.

Of Pepperdine’s 830 acres, about 500 acres have no structures, thanks to Pereira’s dense clustering of buildings and maintained open spaces. School officials are diligent about brush clearance as well, eliminating combustible vegetation at least 200 feet around all buildings. “We are really religious about it,” says Phillips.

Even the campus’s sprawling front lawn—a natural meadow that was planted with grass—plays a role in fires.

The lush green slope is part of a water conservation system that allows Pepperdine to recycle waste water and store it on site. Runoff that’s waiting to be reused is captured in two lakes—which firefighters used to help manage the Woolsey Fire. The preservation of the meadow and the design of the water infrastructure were envisioned by Pereira as well.

These were decisions made in the early 1970s that Phillips says designers are trying to implement in new developments today. “We were decades ahead of our time,” he says.

https://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2018/11/why-pepperdine-stays-put-when-wildfires-rage.html


I've never been there but it is also a safe bet that the campus is not located at the top of steep, overgrown slope.

 

[inactive]

Malibu can learn from nearby Pepperdine University, which did not need to evaculate becuase of excellent site and building design and excellent yearly maintenance in clearing away all nearby plant materials:

https://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2018/11/why-pepperdine-stays-put-when-wildfires-rage.html


I've never been there but it is also a safe bet that the campus is not located at the top of steep, overgrown slope.

It’s at the bottom, on the south side of the mountains right on the PCH. Literally it’s on the beach.

 

[SMS]

Malibu can learn from nearby Pepperdine University, which did not need to evaculate becuase of excellent site and building design and excellent yearly maintenance in clearing away all nearby plant materials:

....and because of a CalFire command post located on campus, numerous helicopter water/retardant drops and dedicated fire strike teams working through the night LOL.

 

[Hawker800]

 

[Shadowrider]

Malibu can learn from nearby Pepperdine University, which did not need to evaculate becuase of excellent site and building design and excellent yearly maintenance in clearing away all nearby plant materials:

https://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2018/11/why-pepperdine-stays-put-when-wildfires-rage.html


I've never been there but it is also a safe bet that the campus is not located at the top of steep, overgrown slope.

What Cards said. It's the most beautiful university setting I've ever personally seen.

 

[dennishoddy]

....and because of a CalFire command post located on campus, numerous helicopter water/retardant drops and dedicated fire strike teams working through the night LOL.

Meanwhile Kim Kardashian appears on the Ellen show today and talks about how their "private firefighters" saved their mansion.

 

[inactive]

Meanwhile Kim Kardashian appears on the Ellen show today and talks about how their "private firefighters" saved their mansion.

At the risk of defending a Kardashian... Those are often provided by high end insurance companies like Chubb and AIG Private Client group.

 

[Dave70968]

And more power to them! Individuals taking responsibility for their own risks and/or insurance companies mitigating their losses? Where's the problem?

Okay, maybe these guys:

 

[dennishoddy]

At the risk of defending a Kardashian... Those are often provided by high end insurance companies like Chubb and AIG Private Client group.

I don't doubt it, I was just pointing out that the elite don't have to rely on the same services the rest of us do.
Edit: They did make some generous donations to the fire agency and relief.