How far should political correctness take us?

[Riley]

Yes, public dollars refers to tax dollars. Do you think anyone was unclear on that? What could public dollars refer to other than tax dollars. You're digging deep.

Since you headed down the "you didn't make that" rabbit hole I wanted to ensure you didn't really think there was some source of government funding besides coercive tax policy that takes individual and corporate wealth, by force if necessary.

I kind of thought you may actually harbor some ridiculous idea that the government is giving people stuff for free.....

And Ace, your chart doesn't represent the US, those are the numbers in the world..... (I thought Islam was a tad over represented)

http://www.educationworld.com/sites/default/files/U.S.-religions_instory.jpg

Try this one for the US. If it's tough to read, Islam tips the scales with an amazing .06 pct.....

 

[RidgeHunter]

What a crock of crap. Sexual preference is a choice just like being a bank robber or an arsonist is a choice. If your a man and you don't wanna be gay then don't bend over. Enough of this "oh, they are born that". Utter hogwash !!!!! Just look at all the men that go to prison and do homo stuff in their. They were straight before they went in and they'll be straight when they come out. But while they were in prison they chose to be involved in homosex. Chose is the key word.

Did you choose to x-out of the Pornhub BBC category before posting this?

 

[loudshirt]

Religion is a protected class. If a business refused to service a customer on the bases of their Christianity, that would be, clearly, an actionable offense.

An aside, Christians claiming oppression always reminds me of this:

That chart just represents the US.

Jedi is missing from the chart

 

[Defnestor]

ATTN!
I am now announcing my wedding cake and reception pizza catering business. I absolutely will refuse service to non-white, non-straight, non tea-party persons. Just place an order, and see what happens.
Wedding cakes $75/lb, pizza $65 ea. Cash up front, no refunds if you cancel.
I'm serious gay, interracial, democrat couples. Just meet with me, hand over the cash, and see if I don't turn you down.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

And Ace, your chart doesn't represent the US, those are the numbers in the world..... (I thought Islam was a tad over represented)

Two charts. One the US, one the world. Try and keep up, it's really not that hard.

 

[Riley]

That chart just represents the US.

Perhaps you might forgive my error?

 

[dennishoddy]

In your business you use publicly funded roads. You use infrastructure pay for by the public. If you need the police or fire department, those are provided by the public dollar. It goes one and on. You do not get to use the public to provide the basic needs of your business, and then exclude them from your services. And you know this.

HAHA! You didn't build this business!
Rich people did not get rich solely due to their own talent and hard work, but that, to varying degrees, they owe some of their success to good fortune and the contributions of government. Recognize those statements?


Yeah, those folks just got lucky and with the nanny state holding their diapers up, they finally succeeded. You betcha!

 

[Dave70968]

If you will note, I put public in quotes. Walmart is a public business that is publicly owned. ALDI is a public business that is privately owned. They do business with the general public, i.e., a public business. The ownership is irrelevant. Oak Tree Country Club is a private club, i.e., a private business. They are allowed to exclude anyone they want. In a private transaction, i.e., you and another person, you can not deal with anyone for any reason. You're not a public business.

Not so long ago, there were laws forbidding the sale of alcohol in public establishments; only private clubs could do so. Recognizing the state of the law, a certain establishment organized a private club; for the princely sum of $1, one could become a member of said club, and thereby purchase alcoholic beverages. This arrangement passed muster before the scrutiny of the law.

I therefore propose a solution: bakeries (any anybody else who sees fit) establish a "wedding club," with membership restricted to those who the leadership deems appropriate, and who pay appropriate dues. At the leadership's discretion, of course, a coupon toward services may be offered to members; it might even approach the value of the first year's dues.

Just a modest proposal. A Gedankenexperiment, if you will.

 

[dennishoddy]

Not so long ago, there were laws forbidding the sale of alcohol in public establishments; only private clubs could do so. Recognizing the state of the law, a certain establishment organized a private club; for the princely sum of $1, one could become a member of said club, and thereby purchase alcoholic beverages. This arrangement passed muster before the scrutiny of the law.

I therefore propose a solution: bakeries (any anybody else who sees fit) establish a "wedding club," with membership restricted to those who the leadership deems appropriate, and who pay appropriate dues. At the leadership's discretion, of course, a coupon toward services may be offered to members; it might even approach the value of the first year's dues.

Just a modest proposal. A Gedankenexperiment, if you will.

I approve of this suggestion.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

HAHA! You didn't build this business!
Rich people did not get rich solely due to their own talent and hard work, but that, to varying degrees, they owe some of their success to good fortune and the contributions of government. Recognize those statements?


Yeah, those folks just got lucky and with the nanny state holding their diapers up, they finally succeeded. You betcha!

You say "the government" with derision. The same government that allows for all the freedoms we enjoy. The government that had seen this country grow to be the richest country in history. But, when it's suggested that the government may have played a part in the success of a business (a business that would not exist without the government, think about that for a minute), it's "oh hell no!" like that's some kind of socialist thinking. But, don't fret. We are not talking about raising taxes. We are simply saying that that business is not allowed to discriminate for certain reasons. It's clear you have no real concept of what it's like to be discriminated against so it's really a moot point.