It's Official - I hate the GOP

[Hobbes]

With Romney it's just a risk. With Obama it's a given.

Obama has proven he doesn't give a rat's ass about what the public wants. Romney might well nominate a communist/socialist but he gives the "appearance" that he's changing to the will of the people. He's getting hammered for "flip-floppin" every day after all. Besides Romney has a ways to go before he's the GOP's pick. These two primaries were no surprise and mean basically squat. The real ones start soon.

The difference between you and everyone else in this thread is:

Your ONLY interest is defeating Obama, no matter who.
Everyone else wants to vote FOR someone instead of Against O.

 

[inactive]

Ron Paul would not be a household name if not for his views on foreign policy. That is the sole reason he has any support to speak of whatsoever. If he had his same views on everything else, but aligned his foreign policy with mainstream Repubs and Dems...we would not even know who he was.

Word. People really don't get why so many young Americans support him and get ACTIVE for him. Aside from the Cajun Cage-fighting Teen Parents (think Teen Mom meets Swamp People meets The Ultimate Fighter), he really appeals to the younger crowd for this reason.

Laugh off the youth all you want, but their increased awareness in 2008 was a big part of why Obama was popular. Not necessarily through direct voting, but involvement and social media and marketing him as a candidate.

 

[Shadowrider]

The difference between you and everyone else in this thread is:

Your ONLY interest is defeating Obama, no matter who. Almost. I wouldn't go for someone whose worse than Obama.
Everyone else wants to vote FOR someone instead of Against O. Nothing wrong with this. Unless it results in the re-election of Obama.

See above.

 

[RidgeHunter]

The re-election of Obama would only be 4 years, and it might (wishful thinking) spur some change in the GOP. That's all people are saying.

The fact that Ron Paul is showing so much better than he was in 2008 speaks volumes for both parties, and if it continues on like this in the primaries, both parties would be insane to ignore it.

 

[Glocktogo]

The difference between you and everyone else in this thread is:

Your ONLY interest is defeating Obama, no matter who.
Everyone else wants to vote FOR someone instead of Against O.

Exactly. So why buck the one guy who really offers something different from Obama? If the media were forced to give up their denial of service attacks on Ron Paul and the GOP apparatchik were forced to support him, he could defeat Obama quite handily. It would send a chilling message to both parties controlling interests, that the business as usual politics is no longer supported by the voters. Straighten up and get in line, or don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

At this point in time, any other vote is a tacit admission that what they've been doing to us for 25+ years is acceptable.

 

[bilboben]

The re-election of Obama would only be 4 years, and it might (wishful thinking) spur some change in the GOP. That's all people are saying.

yeah it is only 4 years, but you are a car wreck, heart attack, cancer, (you name any cause of death) from 3 to 4 new SC nominees, along with the potential additional retirees, add those to the two disasters he already put on there and you will have more legislation from the bench than two 8 year terms of a Ron Paul and 30 years of a nothing but solid constitutional candidate majorities in congress can undo. The alternative side wonders if the constitution really means anything other than the ability to limit freedoms instead of the establishment freedoms.

 

[Glocktogo]

The re-election of Obama would only be 4 years, and it might (wishful thinking) spur some change in the GOP. That's all people are saying.

yeah it is only 4 years, but you are a car wreck, heart attack, cancer, (you name any cause of death) from 3 to 4 new SC nominees, along with the potential additional retirees, add those to the two disasters he already put on there and you will have more legislation from the bench than two 8 year terms of a Ron Paul and 30 years of a nothing but solid constitutional candidate majorities in congress can undo. The alternative side wonders if the constitution really means anything other than the ability to limit freedoms instead of the establishment freedoms.

First off, it's not like Romney would ever give us a Roberts or Thomas. Perhaps a Kennedy, but more likely a Souter. Even if Obama wins, he'll get to replace Ginsburg & Breyer, and perhaps Kennedy. Scalia would have himself embalmed on the bench before he'd let Obama pick his successor, but he might not outlast Romney. None of the rest of them are going anywhere soon. Were Obama to get a total of 5 appointments, you can be sure that the GOP would extract at least one moderate in the bunch, lest Obama really hit a brick wall in appointments. Four vs. four with one swing voter would probably ensure a balanced judiciary. Stacking heavily one way or the other could ultimately be detrimental to the nation. It's been proven in our SCOTUS history.

 

[skyydiver]

I can't say it any better. I'm with GTG and Ridge on this one. Can't stomach anybody else the GOP has decided to bless us with. Too bad the Cain Train exploded at the station.

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[bilboben]

First off, it's not like Romney would ever give us a Roberts or Thomas. Perhaps a Kennedy, but more likely a Souter. Even if Obama wins, he'll get to replace Ginsburg & Breyer, and perhaps Kennedy. Scalia would have himself embalmed on the bench before he'd let Obama pick his successor, but he might not outlast Romney. None of the rest of them are going anywhere soon. Were Obama to get a total of 5 appointments, you can be sure that the GOP would extract at least one moderate in the bunch, lest Obama really hit a brick wall in appointments. Four vs. four with one swing voter would probably ensure a balanced judiciary. Stacking heavily one way or the other could ultimately be detrimental to the nation. It's been proven in our SCOTUS history.

You are relying too much on the Senate GOP maintain a 1/3 minority. I don't think that is a given. In fact, I feel more sure that Obama will win the in November than the GOP even holding ground in the Senate.

Too much assumption that SC justice can pick their time of leaving this earth and that Sh&* don't happen. Rememeber we are currently one justice away from a ruling the 2a does not provide for self defense of ones person and property according to recent SC dissent arguements

 

[Werewolf]

Not tryin to hijack this thread but after thinkin about it a little more i dont know what i am. Im registered as an independant because im not a dem or repub. Im pro gun, for less government regulations, anti abortion but pro choice, pro states rights and pro healthcare. Im a vet but im anti war on terror or whatever this middle east mess is. Dont like any gop candidate and not a fan of obama. So maybe im not a moderate but im not a lib or conservitive either.

Uhhhh...
You may want to look into what the small 'l' libertarians believe in.