Poll: Marijuana Law Reform

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Do you support allowing physician-authorized patients to consume therapeutic cannabis

  • yes

    Votes: 278 79.7%
  • no

    Votes: 71 20.3%

  • Total voters
    349

TedKennedy

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Taxes are an excellent comparison.
In both cases the State is extracting what it wants from the subject. In both cases armed servants of the State will, by force, extract what the State demands.
Only the State can regulate what you may purchase or consume.
Only the States hired guns are authorized to kill or detain subjects, seize property, and have added protection should a subject resist. (resistance only adds time to the sentence, or in some cases may lead to physical injury or death)
 

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Once again, though, warrants don't require a crime to have been committed.

Also, there's a difference between "use" and "abuse".

They can also get warrants if they are tipped a murder has been committed, your point would be? And taking drugs without a medical reason is abusing them in my book.
 

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They can also get warrants if they are tipped a murder has been committed, your point would be? And taking drugs without a medical reason is abusing them in my book.

A warrant should require reasonable suspicion and evidence that a crime may have taken or may be taking place.

Someone calling in and saying "I saw that so-and-so's backyard has marijuana plants growing between the bamboo shoots" (real world example) should not result in a search warrant, much less a SWAT raid.

If something had been found, would they take the DEA's route of parallel construction?
 

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[video=youtube_share;7L-o8DBpet0]http://youtu.be/7L-o8DBpet0[/video]

William F. Buckley On
The Death Of Peter McWilliams
By William F. Buckley
6-24-00


Peter McWilliams is dead.

Age? Fifty.

Profession? Author, poet, publisher.

Particular focus of interest? A federal judge in California (George King) would decide in a few weeks how long a sentence to hand down, and whether to send McWilliams to prison or let him serve his sentence at home.

What was his offense? He collaborated in growing marijuana plants.

What was his defense? Well, the judge wouldn't allow him to plead his defense to the jury. If given a chance, the defense would have argued that under Proposition 215, passed into California constitutional law in 1996, infirm Californians who got medical relief from marijuana were permitted to use it. The judge also forbade any mention that McWilliams suffered from AIDS and cancer, and got relief from the marijuana.

What was he doing when he died? Vomiting. The vomiting hit him while in his bathtub, and he choked to death. Was there nothing he might have done to still the impulse to vomit? Yes, he could have taken marijuana; but the judge's bail terms forbade him to do so, and he submitted to weekly urine tests to confirm that he was living up to the terms of his bail.

Did anybody take note of the risk he was undergoing? He took Marinol -- a proffered, legal substitute, but reported after using it that it worked for him only about one-third of the time. When it didn't work, he vomited.

Was there no public protest against the judge's ruling? Yes. On June 9, the television program 20/20 devoted a segment to the McWilliams plight. Commentator John Stossel summarized: "McWilliams is out of prison on the condition that he not smoke marijuana, but it was the marijuana that kept him from vomiting up his medication. I can understand that the federal drug police don't agree with what some states have decided to do about medical marijuana, but does that give them the right to just end-run those laws and lock people up?"


Shortly after the trial last year, Charles Levendosky, writing in the Ventura County (Calif.) Star, summarized: "The cancer treatment resulted in complete remission." But only the marijuana gave him sustained relief from the vomiting that proved mortal.

Is it being said, in plain language, that the judge's obstinacy resulted in killing McWilliams? Yes. A Libertarian Party press release has made exactly that charge. "McWilliams was prohibited from using medical marijuana -- and being denied access to the drug's anti-nausea properties almost certainly caused his death." Reflecting on the judge's refusal to let the jury know that there was understandable reason for McWilliams to believe he was acting legally, I ended a column in November by writing, "So, the fate of Peter McWilliams is in the hands of Judge King. Perhaps the cool thing for him to do is delay a ruling for a few months, and just let Peter McWilliams die." Well, that happened on June 14.

The struggle against a fanatical imposition of federal laws on marijuana will continue, as also on the question whether federal laws can stifle state initiatives. Those who believe the marijuana laws are insanely misdirected have a martyr.

Peter was a wry, mythogenic guy, humorous, affectionate, articulate, shrewd, sassy. He courted anarchy at the moral level. His most recent book (his final book) was called Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do. We were old friends, and I owe my early conversion to word processing to his guidebook on how to do it. Over the years we corresponded, and he would amiably twit my conservative opinions.


When I judged him to have gone rampant on his own individualistic views in his book, I wrote him to that effect. I cherish his reply -- nice acerbic deference, the supreme put-down:

"Please remember the Law of Relativity as applied to politics: In order for you to be right, at least someone else must be wrong. Your rightness is only shown in relation to the other's wrongness. Conversely, your rightness is necessary for people like me to look truly wrong. Before Bach, people said of bad organ music, `That's not quite right.' After Bach, people said flatly, `That's wrong.' This allowed dedicated composers to grow, and cast the neophytes back to writing how-to-be-happy music. So, thank me for my wrongness, as so many reviews of my book will doubtless say, `People should read more of a truly great political commentator: William F. Buckley Jr.' "


Imagine such a spirit ending its life at 50, just because they wouldn't let him have a toke. We have to console ourselves with the comment of the two prosecutors. They said they were "saddened" by Peter McWilliams' death. Many of us are -- by his death...and by the causes of it.

[video=youtube_share;QorZKBvPzjw]http://youtu.be/QorZKBvPzjw[/video]
 
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Cannabidiol protects liver from binge alcohol-induced steatosis by mechanisms including inhibition of oxidative stress and increase in autophagy

Abstract

Acute alcohol drinking induces steatosis, and effective prevention of steatosis can protect liver from progressive damage caused by alcohol. Increased oxidative stress has been reported as one mechanism underlying alcohol-induced steatosis. We evaluated whether cannabidiol, which has been reported to function as an antioxidant, can protect the liver from alcohol-generated oxidative stress-induced steatosis. Cannabidiol can prevent acute alcohol-induced liver steatosis in mice, possibly by preventing the increase in oxidative stress and the activation of the JNK MAPK pathway. Cannabidiol per se can increase autophagy both in CYP2E1-expressing HepG2 cells and in mouse liver. Importantly, cannabidiol can prevent the decrease in autophagy induced by alcohol. In conclusion, these results show that cannabidiol protects mouse liver from acute alcohol-induced steatosis through multiple mechanisms including attenuation of alcohol-mediated oxidative stress, prevention of JNK MAPK activation, and increasing autophagy.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891584913015670
 

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WOW... How long are we going to keep this pot smoking thread going?
Not that much longer. Pot is loaded with tar which is bad for the lungs. We need to start talking about eating pot. There are many ways to do it, and they're perfectly healthy, clean thing to do.
We're livening in the twentyfirst century, people.
Don't smoke that sit.
 

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I am familiar with the affects of smoking marijuana, but I can easily pass the 30 year test. I am not a marijuana advocate, but I would be all for the legalization and total deregulation of marijuana. Pardon all the folks in jail or prison for marijuana possession or sale, transport, etc. Let farmers sell it on the side of the road like okra. Price will drop like a rock and crime will go down, prison populations will be more managable, and I believe overall use will decline. Hopefully we see a day when we are exporting weed to Mexico.

Like my former boss said once, "I never broke up a fight between two guys who had been smoking marijuana".

Cedar Creek
 

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